Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

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[surfpunk]

First things first: 63% of Ukrainians ready to endure the war as long as necessary, survey shows

This was just a few weeks ago. Many more where this has come from.

Incorrect. Take the phrasing above, for example: ready to endure. Notice something? It doesn't say "ready to fight".

The polls depict a remarkable coexistence of seemingly conflicting views.

For example, whilst high numbers of Ukrainians support continuing the war, more than 50% also think that draft-dodgers should not be punished. One would think that you can't have it both ways, right? If you're for the war–if you think it's necessary to continue resisting Russia– shouldn't you have unsympathetic views towards men refusing to do their part?

Another recurring theme in the polls is that the people of Western and Southern Ukraine are more opposed to the war than the ones living closer to the frontlines. That's also quite interesting if you think about it. Counter-intuitive even: If you assume the Ukrainians are war-weary, shouldn't the people from Zaporizhzhia be more fed up than the inhabitants of Lviv which hasn't seen much of the war?

I'd suggest what's happening here is not so much growing war-weariness in general but rather a political rift opening inside Ukraine concerning what exactly they're fighting for.

Renewed nationalism has gained momentum in the western half of Ukraine, with radical elements even in parliament openly advocating for the discrimination of Russian-speaking soldiers in the army. Imagine that, they're at war, need boots on the ground yet still they're willing to antagonise many thousands of troops. But the use of the Russian language has seen a sharp decline even amongst Russo-Ukrainians anyway.

It seems to me a narrative has gained ground in Ukraine that the entire nation endures this war mostly for the benefit of some Russo-Ukrainians who secretly might prefer living under Russian rule anyway. That's the problem.

Selensky's government was mistaken not to formulate a simple, clear objective early on in the war; that's what's led to this growing uneasiness amongst the populace. I understand why they didn't do it, the polls showed it was exactly what the people wanted them to do.

But a mistake it was nevertheless. They should've decided right away that Ukraine seeks to return "only" to the status quo ante 2022. They wasted time and ressources not focusing on their best shot.

Besides, Ukraine's recruitment woes aren't what they seem. They've been able to recruit more and more soldiers on a voluntary basis – but at the same time, they now have to drag conscripts out of night clubs. What gives? Well, I've frequently posted content from Roman Ponomarenko, a military historian and active-duty officer of the Azov Brigade. (Use a translator, his posts are well worth the read.)

Ponomarenko has commented a couple of times on the discrepancy in morale between conscripts and volunteer troops and even advocated suspending conscription in favour of intensifying volunteer recruitment, suggesting it would benefit the war effort.

He blames the fact that more and more conscripts refuse to fight not on the war itself, but on systemic injustices surrounding Ukraine's draft: Much like in America during the Vietnam War, men from rich families use money and influence to avoid having to serve. And then there's the age cap, with only those aged 25 or above having to serve on the front lines.

According to Ponomarenko, that's what's ruining morale. The conscripts feel unfairly treated.

it doesnt help a potential recruits or conscripts morale or motivation, knowing that due to persistent ammo shortages, they may not be able to defend themselves properly... what kind of will to fight would you have if you think that your life will be wasted for nothing because you cant respond to the russians in kind, if you have no parity in anything...

 

[Chazman]

Unconfirmed.

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[Chazman]

Nothing is interesting here for the people who can actually read graphs.
Move to negotiations: 48% in October 2023 against 52% in November 2024. It's an increase of 8%+
Continue: 39% in October 2023 against 36% in November 2024. It's a decrease of less than 8%.

This guy is misleading you, as his statement that "In Russia, survey shows lower support for the war" is an überbullsh1t. as the trend has not changed very much for the last 12-13 months.

What?

That's a pretty tortuous way of saying that a complete reversal of public opinion from the beginning of the war through today doesn't exist. I don't know anything regarding this pollster's methodology, but assuming he's not a DNC pollster, I find this very interesting.

 

[Fluff]

What?

That's a pretty tortuous way of saying that a complete reversal of public opinion from the beginning of the war through today doesn't exist. I don't know anything regarding this pollster's methodology, but assuming he's not a DNC pollster, I find this very interesting.

Honestly not sure of the relevance. Possibly 100% of ukr doesn’t want war. So what Vlad isn’t interested. On earlier posts was a suggestion that Lviv etc are not as keen on war, will they get keener if the eastern regions fall?

One reason to fight for the east, is to avoid fighting for the western half.

 

[Picanha]

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Its said that the "new" Wunderwaffe is also cobbled together from older missiles likely the Bulava.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/19/world/europe/russia-troops-losses-ukraine.html

Anyway there are reports that Russia sufferered 405.000 irrecoverrable losses since the start of the invasion.

Ukraine needs much more firepower ASAP.

Putler can go to the basement playing with Kim and his mini nukes.

Well Kim got a new zoo package in exchange for 15000 Nork soldiers....maybe they play furry animals together then...

 

[Musashi]

What?

That's a pretty tortuous way of saying that a complete reversal of public opinion from the beginning of the war through today doesn't exist. I don't know anything regarding this pollster's methodology, but assuming he's not a DNC pollster, I find this very interesting.

You have got 12 dots and 12 dates below. The graph says the opinion reversed in July 2023 and the opponents of war gained a stable majority in October of that year. You talk about it in 2023 rather than in 2024 after over 12 months.
If there was a survey in the USA about something in 2020, you wouldn’t be talking about it in 2024 and referring to it as an „interesting opinion shift”, would you?

 

[Musashi]

The Norks have officially invaded Ukraine:

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[Musashi]

it doesnt help a potential recruits or conscripts morale or motivation, knowing that due to persistent ammo shortages, they may not be able to defend themselves properly... what kind of will to fight would you have if you think that your life will be wasted for nothing because you cant respond to the russians in kind, if you have no parity in anything...

Currrently, the Ukrainians don’t have any ammunition shortages. They had them before the Americans froze their aid many months ago. The biggest problem are manpower shortages.
Many Ukrainian recruits are forced into joining the army:

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WATCH: Ukrainian men being hauled off the streets by army recruiters

Episodes of unsuspecting Ukrainian men being press-ganged are becoming more frequent as Russian forces continue to grind down defensive lines in Eastern Ukraine

www.dailymail.co.uk

You pay a recruitment officer a fee of $30,000 if you want to avoid being drafted and this price skyrocketed for a reason.

Another problem is, the Ukrainians have not built any major fortifications since the war started.
The professional comedian made his countrymen believe in 2022 that they would take back Donbas, Crimea and Zaporozhiya, so they didn’t think about building any fortifications at that time.
Pokrovsk is actually the last perimeter where the Ukrainians have major fortifications.
Building new fortifications was outsourced to private contractors who don’t do their job under RuZZian shelling and drone attacks, as they were told to build these fortifications too close to the current frontline.

 

[Musashi]

It is what it is:

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[Picanha]

I'll drop this here..

https://www.wsj.com/world/americas-rivals-have-a-new-favorite-weapon-criminal-gangs-3c12a35f?mod=WTRN_pos2&cx_testId=3&cx_testVariant=cx_176&cx_artPos=1

Part of their asymmetrical warfare against us.

Western police forces should buckle up and be supported by the executive making it easier to track people online and let them feel the appropriate heat. For example expulse and imprison foreigners which misuse their western jobs to infiltrate systems.

And new cyber laws harshly punishing scammers and friends.

Many leftists, anti capitalists and petty gangsters like the axis of evil because it helps them fight the system which they want to abuse.

 

[PegAsus]

It is what it is:

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After this conflict, the Swiss arms industry will probably experience some financial losses... Who wants to buy ammunition or weapons there if they veto you every time... The ammunition was not sold by Poland to some 3rd world country... You could get the impression that they are being paid by the "Möchtegern Führer" to throw sand in the gears.

 

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That's the small print in the contract that no one ever bothers to read. The follow-up wave is your widow in her brand new Lada.

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