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Footage of the evacuation of a Ukrainian M1A1 SA Abrams tank, American-made, by two Russian tanks, the model of the tanks is unknown. The M1A1 Abrams tank was previously used by the 47th separate mechanized brigade "Magura" of the Ukrainian army, under what conditions it was lost is unknown, presumably the tank ran over a mine. The weight of the M1A1 SA Abrams tank is about 61 tons, plus additional Soviet dynamic protection. Apparently, the tank could not be evacuated using an ARV, so two tanks were used.
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That's why I wrote "about €1.5bn". It could be €1.3bn or €1.4bn. By no means, it could be €1bn or below. These vehicles are totally unaffordable to the vast majority of potential customers.
Which works perfectly well fighting a #shitholeCountry, as I've already mentioned.
You cannot fight a war of attrition against somebody who has plenty of equipment, and resources and is determined to fight despite suffering massive losses.
You just need to use totally different tactics like mixing up modern and expensive equipment with less expensive ones.
The Americans planned to acquire solely stealth fighters, but they concluded it was too expensive.
A better idea is to destroy, or heavily harm the enemy air force with stealth fighters and do massive harm to its air defence and carry on attacks with conventional planes afterwards.
Are British Challenger 2s, German Leopard 2A6s, Polish Krabs, etc. scrap bits and bobs?
That's the missing thing.
What naval blockade can work against RuZZia? Whatever the Orcs don't have, they can import it from #ChinaVirusDevelopers.
A naval blockade would just stop RuZZia from exporting goods to South America and make exports to Africa more difficult.
Is it what our military planners thought when they decided to stay in Afghanistan? Did our smaller losses make us win the war in Afghanistan? Did they make the Americans win the war in Vietnam?
Your way of thinking just reminds me of your prediction about the success of the Ukrainian "offensive" in Zaporozhiya in 2023, while I said it would fail well before it started. Your optimism here is exactly the same.
They also obliterated the Vietnamese. Does it mean they won the Vietnam War?
As it cannot afford to buy the full kit. The point the West concludes it has more important problems than financing Ukraine will make things worse.
Yes, I know about it. How will you convince EU and U.S. taxpayers to spend another $200bn to help Ukraine, so it could carry on in the future?
Has the Saudi modern equipment made Saudi Arabia win the civil war in Yemen?
Yes, that's true, but what do you define as the "victory"? If Ukraine was able to liberate all its territories that were lost past 2014, do you really believe it would make RuZZia sign a peace agreement and stop fighting? You are out of the touch with reality.
Their training was much better than before 2014 and better than the RuZZian training in many ways.
It does not matter. The Orcs have learned how to jam the GPS signal and made a lot of Western weapons ineffective. They don't have enough jamming devices to jam it everywhere and that's why some GMLRS and Excalibur attacks are still effective.
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The world’s most famous comedian wants to strike a deal with ol’ Trump.
His proposals are nothing more but a comedy show.
The most ifunny point is about replacing the U.S. troops in Europe with Ukrainian ones. Has anybody asked us if we want any Ukrainian troops in the EU?
The second-most exciting point is about giving up Ukrainian natural resources to the Americans.
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His proposals are nothing more but a comedy show.
The most ifunny point is about replacing the U.S. troops in Europe with Ukrainian ones. Has anybody asked us if we want any Ukrainian troops in the EU?
The second-most exciting point is about giving up Ukrainian natural resources to the Americans.
FT: Two points of Zelenskyʼs Victory Plan were developed with Trumpʼs presidency in mind. The Republican was interested in both
Two ideas from Zelenskyʼs victory plan were developed taking into account the potential presidency of Donald Trump. During a meeting with Zelensky in September, Trump took an interest in both
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Because he knows very well that if Trump is to continue to support him, he has to offer him something he can profit from...The second-most exciting point is about giving up Ukrainian natural resources to the Americans.
FT: Two points of Zelenskyʼs Victory Plan were developed with Trumpʼs presidency in mind. The Republican was interested in both
Two ideas from Zelenskyʼs victory plan were developed taking into account the potential presidency of Donald Trump. During a meeting with Zelensky in September, Trump took an interest in both
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Come on man...The world’s most famous comedian wants to strike a deal with ol’ Trump.
His proposals are nothing more but a comedy show.
The most ifunny point is about replacing the U.S. troops in Europe with Ukrainian ones. Has anybody asked us if we want any Ukrainian troops in the EU?
The second-most exciting point is about giving up Ukrainian natural resources to the Americans.
FT: Two points of Zelenskyʼs Victory Plan were developed with Trumpʼs presidency in mind. The Republican was interested in both
Two ideas from Zelenskyʼs victory plan were developed taking into account the potential presidency of Donald Trump. During a meeting with Zelensky in September, Trump took an interest in both
Give the guy a break. He's not a hero or anything but look at his situation..
What else can he do that would not crucify his population and Ukraine?
To me it's totally ok to shoot at different directions with everything you have after all promises of the ridiculous EU (except Poland tbh) went to garbage.
Orange man will want something in return if he continue the support to ukraine. This could be something.
I mean, the guy has not many coins left on the table..
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Yes, you are right. It's not only Poland, as many EU countries contributed. Poland's help, despite being big in the GDP percentage terms, still does not make up a massive percentage of the $200bn that the entire world has spent to keep Ukraine going. The major problem is that $50 bn of that has been stolen by corrupt Ukrainian politicians, and some world leaders clearly don't like it.
Speaking of Poland itself, many Polish people raised a question about why we spent so much and basically disarmed our army by donating something like 50% of our tanks, 90% of 155mm SPHs, a big percentage of our AD systems and infantry fighting vehicles. Most Western countries donated their equipment from their reserves, while we disarmed our active units.
So, there's a very strong allegation that the previous national socialist government wanted to take over part of Western Ukraine and struck a deal with el señor Puta to divide Ukraine and the Ukrainian intelligence found it out.
The Polish national socialists, often wrongly referred to as a "right-wing party", decided to hold a meeting in Warsaw, inviting all the major EU politicians financed by el señor Puta, and they discussed the future of the EU just 2.5 months before the RuZZian invasion.
Of course, the Americans had been warning them for months about the RuZZian invasion, so they knew what was going to happen, but they decided to hold the meeting despite that.
The next thing is that plenty of the former Polish government's politicians had meetings with Ukrainian prostitutes in brothels in south-eastern Poland.
Both the RuZZians and the Ukrainians do exactly the same: prostitution is supervised by their intelligence and that's the legacy of the USSR.
If you are somebody important and you meet a RuZZian or a Ukrainian prostitute, it's very likely that their intelligence will blackmail you and hold you by the balls.
So, it's likely what happened in 2022. The situation is totally different now. The new Polish government keeps on delivering military assistance, but not so much military hardware, as we cannot disarm ourselves totally and started giving conditions in order to deliver more help.
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