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I would never underestimate the Russians. They have a lot of combat power. But they are being surrounded in a cauldron in at least two places. Kursk and Donbass.
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End game to who? Russia or ukraine? No side here is winning...
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No one really wins against cockroavhes, one can merely contain it
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The question is: who ties up the last soldier in the army???
A fairly Nippon analogy to be made here : I commit Hara-kiri, my friend beheads me who should therefore hara-kiri himself too…
Little by little we'd come to an end to the Russian plague.
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Both. Russians are bogged down, and now invaded. Ukr can’t push the dug in Russians out, but can invade the weakly held Russian territory. Russia couldn’t win this, unless China gives them men and weapons, and at the same time the west stops all support. I don’t see either one of these things happening. I think even maintaining the status quo is hard for Russia, mostly because they don’t care about losses. Ukraine with much lower loss rate, and more tech arriving, with western support, could carry on for a long time, but can’t push Russia out, as this costs too many lives. Luka seems to be talking up talks. Putin seems quiet, medleved also missing. Russian response to the invasion is weak, remember this is the middle of a war zone, there are troops everywhere! It’s now 2 weeks, an army that throws bodies at problems, isn’t throwing bodies around….
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Legal trial then a firing squad for war crimes
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Orc SP artillery in storage. Why are so many units still in storage and not being repaired? That's easy! With corruption not only commonplace but a way of life, spares needed to get them up & running have never existed. General A orders several million worth of replacement barrels from oligarch B. Those are duly paid for - oligarch B deposits the funds in a secret account - General A gets his kickback, and the SP units in storage continue to quietly oxidize. Thus is life in the Orc military.
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Syrskiy reveals the West compromised two of his plans in the past:
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Ukraine's top general considered three scenarios for operations in Kursk
Under pressure from active Russian advances in Donetsk Oblast, Ukrainian army chief Oleksandr Syrskyi began planning a secret operation in Russia's Kursk Oblast in July, according to a report by The Economist published on Aug. 18.
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if the primary purpose was to relieve pressure on the Pokrovsk front, it doesnt appear to be working... it seems all Russia really needs to do is just let the Ukrainians have it, and only put enough troops there that continuing the advance becomes too costly for the Ukrainians, and than it is up to the Russians to just attrit the Ukrainians bit by bit in the Kursk oblast.... contain them more or less, which probably can be done without having to draw enough troops from elsewhere to make a difference to the Ukrainians.... all sources I have read, such as the ISW, dont seem to think Ukraine has any more combat power to really force the Russians hand... it might end up being a dilemma for the Ukrainians, if the situation becomes desperate enough elsewhere that they have to withdraw from Kursk completely, to redeploy elsewhere. this would probably be difficult, and the Russians would probably hammer them as they tried to disengage, and possibly continuing to attack over the border from Kursk.... I am hoping that Ukrainian OPSEC is just REALLY good, and they actually do have more than what we or any of the OS intelligence sources know...
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4 Ukrainian MRAPs destroyed supposedly by KA-50.
Not sure how to verbalize this, but there must be SOME way that if you are making a push, or moving through contested areas that you could reasonably defend against this, at the least destroying the helo (or whatever weapon system it is) after they target the assets, or detecting them before and being able to either destroy them or chase them out of range of whatever weapons they have. things like this make me feel like Ukraine is lacking, I dont know, some type of basic multi layered capability, or, maybe sometimes they have it, and sometimes they dont. it seems pretty basic capability you need to have if you want to be successful in maneuver warfare.
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4 Ukrainian MRAPs destroyed supposedly by KA-50.
Offensive maneuver warfare can be extremely costly and easily fail. We've seen that many times in this conflict. From my POV its been going rather well so far, all things considered and keep in mind, the opponent always has a says in everything. Is able to counter everything. Especially when they are near-peer. In other terms, it could be much worse.
But from how things are developing, its evident that Syrsky chose where and especially when to attack, with great care and preparation, so his troops could hold on for a while in case of success and would face as little physical resistente as possible, at least during the initial stages. ( How it should be ). Not just from the enemy and their strategic reserves, but also minefields, fortifications and natural barriers. I read that the AFU had deployed a strong air defense umbrella for this operation. They carry man pads, even ATGMs that can engage aircraft like attack helicopters to some degree. But there is only so much protection all that can provide at once, especially against drones and well not at all against artillery, right. Those two still remain the greatest threats / vehicle killers there, at least that's my impression judging footage of attacks on Ukrainian equipment. Naturally Ukrainians are trying to counter all these threats with whatever they possess. I imagine nobody is more frustrated and aware of their limitations in resources, than the AFU themselves. They work with what they have. But this is also just war. Its not one sided, not everything goes as you want or planned for and we are witnessing the brutal reality of it. Even if a plan survives first contact with the enemy, things may become more difficult once the adversaries get their S**t together. Russians got surprised and it worked, but now they start to counter. If the Ukrainians don't keep up the pressure, keep attacking, keep moving, undermine their response, impair their logistics, beat their reinforcements, they will recover and push back. This is precisely what the Ukrainians have been doing this whole time. But when you move and attack, those are simply the risks you are confronted with as the attacker. To get spotted, reported, bombed, ambushed.
Now imagine what a difficult time it must have been for the Ukrainians in the South, to push against some of the most fortified and mined positions on the entire frontline.
Both the Russians and Ukrainians have learned from their past mistakes. This is why I regard this operation as a well executed but also well timed one, once again, all things considered.
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