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Did you say Harry?
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Grumpy bed syndrome apart, @muck what do you think will happen, in Germany, with the Leo’s?
The gas situation is resolved, and we are 60% through the winter. Other countries are sending mbt.
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I actually agree with that.
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Yeah... at least she wants us to have a livable planet, which I can agree with. We also need a working economy and a lot of energy to not implode as a civilization.
I like to think that in this world we need both kinds of people, people with wild visions and those who understand the realities.
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Dumping fossil fuels has the additional benefit of screwing over places like Russia, Iran, Saudi, etc. The less oil/gas money they have to throw around, the more impotent they become.
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Normally, the Russian embassy employee who admitted that Crimea, Donbabwe and Luganda belong to Ukraine would fall out the window.
However, we live in the desperate times, so I believe he will join a Wagner penal battalion:
However, we live in the desperate times, so I believe he will join a Wagner penal battalion:
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Except it's being done by outsourcing production of solar panels to China ...
Only about a dollar difference with the rest of Europe where that money is spent on useless stuff like roads, public safety, non-fire hazard public buildings and hospitals that do not look like they're from the Crimean War, the 1854 edition.
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Regarding Germany's new minister of defence, Boris Pistorius – what Visegrad24 forgot to mention is that he has voiced support for Ukraine's cause far in excess' of that of his new boss. Whereas Scholz doesn't seem to understand why people would want clarification of him when he says "Ukraine must not be defeated" (but has never brought himself to say: "Ukraine must win"), Pistorius said this: "Ukraine's recovery of her occupied territories is wholly justified and absolutely necessary and has to be supported by us. Ukraine must win this war." (Source)
Realistically speaking, there's no way he can weather out this storm any longer. His coalition partners pressure him to say yes; the opposition pressures him to say yes; Germany's allies pressure him to say yes. Despite his faux confidence in the media, the Social Democrats are pretty much alone on this. A January 6 Statista poll showed that only 26% of the electorate think Germany shouldn't send more weapons to Ukraine.
Drawing on press reports from the previous week, my best guess is Scholz will use the stage at the allies' conference at Ramstein AB on January 20 to announce that export permits will be issued and donations will be made. That toad will probably even make it look like he'd always meant to do it. There's now talk afoot that 15 Leopard 2's would be send, and maybe the Leopard 1's Ukraine had requested last year.
Realistically speaking, there's no way he can weather out this storm any longer. His coalition partners pressure him to say yes; the opposition pressures him to say yes; Germany's allies pressure him to say yes. Despite his faux confidence in the media, the Social Democrats are pretty much alone on this. A January 6 Statista poll showed that only 26% of the electorate think Germany shouldn't send more weapons to Ukraine.
That can be helped, though. We can build our own solar panels; we can't produce oil we don't have.
You didn't catch up on the follow-up news? L. was being blackmailed by the Russians.
That's not really news though, is it? A few months ago, 70,000 of those people roamed Prague. And 40,000 "protested" in several East German cities. There's way too many fifth columns in many NATO countries.
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"How do you assess the following reactions of German politics to the war in Ukraine?" (Source, German, partially behind Paywall):
Supporting Ukraine with armaments:
- The reaction is appropriate: 41%
- The reaction goes too far: 26%
- The reaction doesn't go far enough: 25%
- Don't know: 8%
Sanction measures against Russia:
- The reaction is appropriate: 35%
- The reaction doesn't go far enough: 35%
- The reaction goes too far: 19%
- Don't know: 11%
Diplomatic efforts to settle the war:
- The reaction doesn't go far enough: 52%
- The reaction is appropriate: 34%
- The reaction goes too far: 4%
- Don't know: 10%
The second question doesn't make sense, strictly speaking, as these sanctions are not really "reactions of German politics" but sanction packages passed by the G7 and the EU with German support. The third set of answers shows what Henry Kissinger called the "Trauma of the Thirty Years' War" (even though he favours a diplomatic solution himself): Germans believe diplomacy is some form of arcane art to solve all issues. At any rate, this poll does put to rest any rumors about there being a majority of Germans against sanctions or armament donations.
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I wonder how many M60 tanks are still available, those were produced in cold war numbers and have lots of upgrades available. UP to the task too
Japan has 341 Type 90 that they dont seem to like and 874 Type 74
South Korea has 1000 K1s
The west isnt exactly short of tanks
Japan has 341 Type 90 that they dont seem to like and 874 Type 74
South Korea has 1000 K1s
The west isnt exactly short of tanks
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Lots. Egypt has 700 in storage, for example. A later M60 is a good match for a T-72.
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French think tank IFRI has released a study on the materiel reserves of NATO, Russia and China. (Source, French)
The authors' key findings:
The authors' key findings:
- Within NATO, only the US still maintains large armament depots. Only the US could wage a sustained war on the level of intensity seen now.
- However, the focus of America's materiel reserves has shifted to the provision of foreign military sales; the reserves of the US Navy in particular have shrunk considerably.
- Germany, the UK and France have virtually no materiel reserves.
- The German Army has been restructured into a "construction kit" for overseas deployments and lacks endurance.
- The British Army has been reduced beyond its breaking point for cost saving reasons and strategic calculations; the ceding of much equipment to Ukraine before 2022 has exacerbated this issue.
- For France, the shifted focus on Africa had a detrimental effect; most recently, depots maintained for an intervention unit of 2,300 soldiers had to be shut down for cost reasons; the French Air Force has not maintained any materiel reserves since 2016. And when the 5th Dragoon Regiment was to be created in 2016, the necessary tanks had to be cobbled together from 200 cannibalised Leclercs.
- In Western Europe, France is still in the best position to regenerate; efforts are being made to optimise materiel management, the French Navy is in a better shape than its sister branches, and the introduction of the Griffon armoured personnel carrier allows the French to store great numbers of VAB APCs.
- Eastern European NATO countries over-prioritised the upgrading of their air forces above anything else; land systems from Soviet times are in storage but obsolete.
- Russia has the world's largest stockpile of materiel for land warfare, but much of the equipment is obsolete and in poor condition. Many stored vehicles are exposed to the elements.
- Russia will reactivate 800 T-62Ms over the next three years.
- The Russian Air Force has virtually no materiel reserves, except for a buffer of transport aircraft.
- The Russian Navy is trying to grow again by means of reactivating and modernising old vessels; in view of the fate of the sunken cruiser Moskva, the authors believe this will not lead anywhere.
- The West has drastically underestimated Russia's stockpiles of missiles and cruise missiles. Estimated in 2019 to stand at around 900, Russia has actually fired 1,500 missiles on Ukraine since.
- The modernisation efforts of the Chinese People's Liberation Army have released extensive stocks of phased-out equipment; the authors predict that the Chinese will follow America's example and launch their own foreign military sales in order to gain influence.
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Granny's on to you!
One just needs to visit Berlin on May 9 to count the fifth column.
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