Warfare Russia/Ukraine War
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Maybe people's moods have nothing to do with it. All this can be fixed using the police, fsb, tv propaganda and repression. For a police state it doesn't matter.
The main bet was that the Ukr government would be frightened by the tanks near Kiev. Ukr has already begun to agree on some points with Russia before the attack (from insiders). All factors were on the side of Rus victory, but everything went wrong...
That’s unlikely to be achieved.
Keep in mind, the ‘West’ is a broad term. The US and Europe can have different interest predicated on who is in office.
At the end of the day, people care about themselves; their own well-being. As such, this war does NOT affect the everyday American like it does the European…..certainly not security wise (unless we push Russia to use nukes).
Sending billions overseas and enacting sanctions during an economic downturn is politically unsustainable here; particularly coming off our ‘lessons learned’ disgraces in Iraq and Afghanistan.
As I said, we’re already seeing a noticeable backlash to Biden’s Ukraine policies. The isolationist, anti-NATO Trump faction of the GOP isn’t happy. And they always win out the end on the republican side.
And the Democrats are gonna get wrecked in the upcoming mid-terms. This does not bid well for Zelensky.
He is obviously keenly aware of this.
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You are dicarding a few keys facts
The operation was rushed with very few middle leading ranks informed. In fact it seems that it was clearly a political decision that didn't put a lot (if not more than a couple) of military in the loop
The russian units were not engaged into their line/combat organization (combined arm BCT) but under their organic organization (mother divisions), lossing the combined arm force multiplier. Which puzzled a lot of analysts. Because it was a last minute political order
Combat assaults on Kiev and a few others positions (Karkyiv comes to mind) were made on the assumption that the ukrainian forces were as weak and as politicaly reliable as in 2014 which obviously was not the case
Now reverse the picture and think about how would have been the Russian operational plan if the UKA was already largely supplied with NATO advanced weapons and a larger NATO compatible formation.
It is possible (not guarantee, the politics have the end words but still) that the military would have had a better word to say on how to act
It is a what if but a plausible one
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Better delete it, it looks stupid. I watched this interview, an adequate guy from the DPR / LPR.
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"The video tells how the air defense units of the 95th separate assault brigade of the DShV of the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroy the means of the air attack of the Russian aggressor in the Izyum direction.
In particular, on this day, two Russian multi-purpose unmanned aerial vehicles "Orlan-10" were shot down by Stinger MANPADS calculations.
DShV - always first! Glory to Ukraine! ??????
Video: telegram channel of the Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine"
In particular, on this day, two Russian multi-purpose unmanned aerial vehicles "Orlan-10" were shot down by Stinger MANPADS calculations.
DShV - always first! Glory to Ukraine! ??????
Video: telegram channel of the Command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine"
This Is Not Just 'Putin's War' And Russians Should '100 Percent' Feel Guilty: A Veteran Russian Analyst Pulls No Punches
In a wide-ranging interview, Vladislav Inozemtsev, a Russian academic who is the director of the Moscow-based Center for Research on Post-Industrial Studies, discusses Putin's health, whether Russians should feel collective guilt, and predicts how the Putin regime will end.
www.rferl.org
Let's get one thing straight.
In the 'East of Eden" - yes in the EU too - for most people dentistry - orthodontics is a luxury item, the statistics are appalling.
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Yes and no. Such eventualities were never ruled out to begin with. They have been a major concern from the outset. Even more dramatic and extensive disasters (Dniepr kessel) were prognosticated and alluded to by analysts, like for example Reisner. They never said it was impossible for Russia to score such wins. When Reisner for example points out apparent shifts in Russian kessel goals and lack of progress, he is not claiming someone was losing or winning, or ruling out potential Russian breakthroughs. They simply work with facts of the day, like the rest of us have to and present their own theories on how things could develop, based on those. On the other hand, I would agree, that many might have not expected a potential Russian breakthrough, this soon, or some even at all. But again, that is also highly speculative.
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If this were true, we would by week 5 have seen a massive improvement in Russian performance.
We didnt see this.
No amount of preparation, or notice, or anything else, would have improved the performance of this Army.
What you see is where they are at, which basically is slightly more than an armed rabble. Even 3 months later, we still see vehicles moving in daylight, under sight of Ukr missile operators. We see tanks and other vehicles alone. We see captured intact vehicles.
And even if you give ukr nato weapons on day one - what a fieldday for Russian propaganda - but this is your idea, not mine - and give Russians better planning, I think you still get a similar result, just with less territory captured by Russia, maybe less losses, but maybe not. Had those first russian attacks been destroyed, where would we now be?
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Zaporizhzhya volunteers have developed a new model of bulletproof vests, which they consider ideal
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U.S. may boost Ukraine's defense with Harpoon missiles - Naval News
Unconfimed reports suggest that the U.S. is planning to send Ukraine Harpoon missiles to break the Russian blockade off the coast of Odessa.
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YouTube removes more than 9,000 channels relating to Ukraine war
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We can colour the parrot what the Russians would have done then, jajajajajajajajaja...
I'll tell you: they'd have beaten the drum of battle, that they'd have subjugated everyone.
Their logistics, training, etc would have remained just as shitty.
Except that the 'Kiev convoy' wouldn't have been attacked by a few Bayraktars, but by, say, three MLRS batteries with cluster warheads. undsoweiter, and their strategists who prepared the 'we'll take it in three days' war plan' would have been aware of that....
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"For two years he played at the Mariupol Drama Theater, the same one that was destroyed by air strikes by the occupiers. He gave another 17 years to the theater. Lesya Ukrainka in Kyiv. You could also see him in various TV series and movies. But now he is the commander of an infantry platoon in the hottest areas of the theater of operations in Ukraine. Even this interview had to be recorded under artillery fire. Become a sponsor of this channel - https: //www.youtube.com/channel/UCg7T ...
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