My comment actually referred to the statement that Ukraine will not be admitted to NATO... Perhaps I should have been more precise...
The Budapest Memorandum rules that out and despite russia completely ignoring it their non-withdrawal means that NATO will likely still abide by it (and this is of course not taking into account how Hungary, Slovakia, Turkey etc would react).

AFAIK there is no cancellation clause in case of a (severe) breach.

Properly supporting Ukraine could have been a discussion pre-Feb 2022, joining NATO could not post-2014 due to the no-territorial-disputes stipulation. Post 2008 everyone who wanted to could foresee what was coming.

The deadly errors were made long before Trump first entered office. He's just having to deal with the lousy cards he's got. There is no scenario where Ukraine gets all of it's territory back even if that doesn't include Crimea except as I see it:
a) a complete collapse of the russian state due to a completely wrecked economy which is undesirable for any government due to likely global economic crash/depression, weapons, nuclear material and technology being flogged off to anyone with money, mass migration etc. Whoever replaces Putin will try to hang on to Crimea at the very least because the russian people as a whole view it as part of their rightful homeland;
b) someone in the russian forces has the bright idea to attack NATO and, assuming it doesn't get swept under the rug, NATO attacks russian forces inside Ukraine with the intent of pushing them out, ironically creating the buffer zone that Putin has wanted so desperately for himself, only several hundred kilometers closer to Moscow instead of away from it. The Euro side of NATO has the punch of a kitten and the sustainment power of a week, perhaps two at most, so the paying, fighting and dying will have to be done by the Americans, as usual. The American people do not want this and neither does their president who was elected on the very premise of not dragging them into foreign adventures. This may well end with situation a) occurring as a result for a double whammy of complete (nuclear) Charlie Foxtrot as we find out whichever lunatic replaces the current madman.

If this continues it will only result in more casualties to defend territory that will still be lost and which Ukraine will never get back.

It's easy for idealists to have ideals when they're not the ones feeding the meatgrinder. If Ukraine wants to continue fighting that's their decision, though seeing as how the pool of volunteers has dried up, conscription is being dodged in massive numbers and we're the ones signing the checks (also housing the aforementioned draft dodgers) and sending the equipment I don't think the Ukrainians are that eager to continue the war until the last man standing, at least not the ones who'd be doing the actual dying and their relatives.

There is no fairy-tale miraculous outcome to this struggle. Only realists can stop the war.
 
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My friends in Taiwan are already waiting for the Tariffs to come down. Now watching another nation being thrown under the bus, one that had guarantees from the US and at the borders of its alliance, I'm sure will make a lot of nations in the region think. This could give a stronger alliance to Japan for some nations, as the Japanese do seem interested in taking up the protector mode. Now how a stronger Asian centric alliance would impact the future interest of the US is an interesting brain exercise.

Ukraine seems to be where the Spanish Civil War was in the interwar period.
 

What a clown he is, lucky Europe is so weak so he can asskiss Putler over our heads.

Yes those two great nations should go ahead together for the better of the world. One is slaughtering people at an unprecedented rate but gets "admiration and nostalgia" just for reference...

I would now immediately cancel all nuclear treaties and invest 50 billion in nuclear arms and the US can leave European soil and maybe ask Putler for bases there and access to his great and powerful market.
 
If Germany wants to send it's children to die in Ukraine and spend their money on a war that can't be won on the battlefield instead of healthcare, infrastructure and law enforcement then go right ahead.

Other people make other choices.

Ukraine decided to not back down and sacrificed their children Trump just shat on them and their sacrifice.

Actively sabotaging it.

I mean if nations want to be swallowed by dictatorships then we can all line up and those who want that can leave to their respective loved dictator. Saves us wars isn't it?

Point is one ass started that.

And that's not how the world rolls.

PS: But when you get swallowed by the Russian MIR you won't even have a toilet...
 
The talks are just starting. It´s too early to know what a deal would be.

As @Mike1976 said, territories lost by Ukraine are not going to be won back. If Ukraine launched its operation in Kursk, which in the end probably has dissapointing results, it was possibly (armchar general talking) to barter the return of the Zaporizhzhia power plant to Ukraine with the threatening of the Kursk one.

Russia wants all the way to Odessa. Will Trump accept that? I cannot tell. Would it be a ceasefire or a longer lasting peace, I do not know. I hope for the latter with no territory concessions from Ukraine. But in the end, without assistance, and if Russia still has teeth in its military and it probably has, these things are possible.

Yes mistakes were made a long time ago but also during Trump I. Trump´s involvement in Ukraine 2016-2020 had everything to do with Hunter Biden and little to do with Ukraine asking for some assistance in securing its borders at the time. Russian pundits on TV have said repeatedly that Trump gave them time to prepare...it may annoy some here but it is a fact that they openly and with amusement make public.
 
My friends in Taiwan are already waiting for the Tariffs to come down. Now watching another nation being thrown under the bus, one that had guarantees from the US and at the borders of its alliance, I'm sure will make a lot of nations in the region think. This could give a stronger alliance to Japan for some nations, as the Japanese do seem interested in taking up the protector mode. Now how a stronger Asian centric alliance would impact the future interest of the US is an interesting brain exercise.

Ukraine seems to be where the Spanish Civil War was in the interwar period.
Japan has no population. Militarily, I do not think Japan would help in a war of attrition.

What I think is that everyone will be getting nukes if you do not rely on alliances to go all the way.

A long time ago that is one of the reasons de Gaulle wanted France to have control over its nukes independently from NATO. He had told Eisenhower that he felt that one day a situation might arise in Europe where the US would not use its nuclear forces in a localized european conflict.
 
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Japan has no population. Militarily, I do not think Japan would help in a war of attrition.

What I think is that everyone will be getting nukes if you do not rely on alliances to go all the way.

A long time ago that is one of the reasons de Gaulle wanted France to have control over its nukes independently from NATO. He had told Eisenhower that he felt that one day a situation might arise in Europe where the US would not use its nuclear forces in a localized european conflict.
I think the war on Asia would be somwhat different, the war on attrition here would be quicker, simply because no matter how much bodies China has on their homeland, they would need ships and aircraft to move those bodies. Something that Japan and Taiwan and/or whatever coalition it forms can block hard or at least has a better chance of blocking.
 
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thats just youtubers dreams, the largest foreign direct investment to the Philippines is Japan and the EU nations
 
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Negotiations is when you negotiate something. Trump is just giving it to Putin. Leaders should rethink their relations with the US and start taking care of their backyard themselves and with other partners.
 
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What a clown he is, lucky Europe is so weak so he can asskiss Putler over our heads.

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I would now immediately cancel all nuclear treaties and invest 50 billion in nuclear arms and the US can leave European soil and maybe ask Putler for bases there and access to his great and powerful market.
And that weakness is self-imposed since our societies dreamt of the end of history and are acting on it to this day, but in the form of the Weimar group (who on earth thought using that name was a bright idea?!?) are trying to get a spot on the negotiating table nonetheless to put in their deluded wishful thinking and hollow objections.

Actually taking it seriously would have meant more than some increase in military spending in some countries with orders that will take many years to start to be delivered. Expanding European production capacity, reintroducing conscription, renovating infrastructure to be able to support military vehicle weight etc.

Instead we huffed, we puffed and in the end barely lifted a finger from what could have been done, letting the US do more comparative to the EU's population and our combined economies.

The Netherlands wants new bases and storage sites, but the "not in my backyard" mentality is as strong as ever with a complete bureaucratic swamp holding up the process completely. And then we haven't even done the environmental eval yet to see why base X can't be built on site Y because of insignificant forest critter Z or some other irrelevant BS. As a result these bases only exist in the realm of wishful thinking.

To put that into perspective when the government needs locations for asylum shelters they push ahead regardless of legalities, protests and environmental concerns and no money is spared on getting it done as quickly and as refined as possible. And it actually gets done. Imagine that!

The single remaining factory producing generic medicines in the country would have been closed down if it hadn't been for a start-up taking it over. The government didn't lift a finger because they didn't see the point because we have our great friend China to produce vital medicines for us. This was Jan. 2023!

A guy with experience in manufacturing wants to produce small arms ammunition as well as 30-40mm ammo in the Netherlands. Governments on every level are trying to bully him out of the country because in their opinion his business is "morally complicated".

Does that all sound like we're taking it so seriously? It can all be done, our politicians just don't wanna.

European politicians want this war to end just as much so they can go back to neglecting defence and spending the money on things they actually care about instead and win votes through it.

If not they should have done more to make Europe more independent of the US (manufacturing) instead of just using it as fancy talking points and subsequently sitting on their ass doing nothing (just as "much" as they were before).
 
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An episode of a mass attack by Russian kamikaze drones "Geran-2" on the Ukrainian seaport of Reni in the Odessa region, on the border with Romania. Some of the drones "Geran-2" are shot down by aviation and air defense of Ukraine, an episode of this is shown in the second part of the video. According to Ukrainian media, 15-20 explosions were heard in the port. In the video, a Ukrainian helicopter Mi-24, Soviet-made, fires from 12.7-mm machine guns YakB-12.7 at the Russian drone "Geran-2".

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