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+A similar thing appears to have happened to a cable between Sweden and Lithuania. Someone dragging some big anchors (or has quite a precise drop spot, as according to the afternoon tabloids, the size of the area where both of the cables meet&cross each other is around 10 square meters). Gee, I wonder who might that be..
An illustration of part of the baltic cable network.
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The Americans need them to fight China. The #ChinaVirusDevelopers have been rapidly modernising their army, fleet, and aviation.
I know what you said and you said scrap bits and bobs rather than just bits and bobs.
Here, you have the definition from the Cambridge Dictionary that is commonly used in the UK:
scrap
1. to not continue with a system or plan: 2. to get rid of something that is…
Indeed, your YPR-765s were retired vehicles that had not been used by the Dutch Army at the time you decided to donate them to Ukraine
YPR-765 - Wikipedia
So, let me repeat it to you: the Krabs, the Leopard 2A6s, the PzH2000s, the Challenger 2s, and the Swedish CV90s, which were praised by the Ukrainian Army, are not scrap.
It's not the case for each and every country. Some countries, like Spain and Portugal, decreased their Leopard 2 fleet by a few tens of per cent.
The Americans cannot use their full potential in Europe, as they need to keep their reserve for a possible conflict with China.
If you don't understand that Europe is not America's priority, it means you have a problem.
There's a saying in Poland and RuZZia: "If a grandmother had balls, she would be a grandfather". So, the West did not have the will to support Ukraine till 2022 and what could have been done is totally irrelevant.
Of course, they do. The thing is, I'm under the impression that you believe it would be a key factor for RuZZia to withdraw from Ukraine.
Again, you keep implying that RuZZia could have been pushed out of Ukraine solely by the Ukrainians and, on top of that, you truly believe that even if it miraculously happen, the war would stop.
Ukraine has never been able to sort out its own sh1t and the RuZZian invasion is just an add-on.
In 1990, Ukraine was roughly 25% richer than Poland, while its economy makes up less than 25% of the Polish economy at the moment.
Ukraine - gross domestic product (GDP) 2029 | Statista
In 2024, Ukraine's gross domestic product (GDP) was estimated at nearly 189 billion U.S.
www.statista.com
You appear not to understand it, Ukraine does not have the manpower to push RuZZia out of its territory. Recruitment officers and doctors who examine potential recruits' health are millionaires, as the current price for avoiding military service reaches $30,000.
You keep believing that we are still in the spring of 2022 when millions of Ukrainians were ready to join the army and a lot of them were rejected for many reasons.
I've never used this phrase towards you, but let me be clear: you clearly don't know what you are talking about.
I spent hundreds of hours listening to various professionals talking about this offensive and they said nothing like you.
By saying that there was no offensive, you are offending these tens of thousands of Ukrainian soldiers who were killed in it.
Despite the losses being referred to as "heavy", there was no offensive according to you. I really like your logic:
2023 Ukrainian counteroffensive - Wikipedia
There was no area like that in the south or the east, as the Orcs mined the sh1t out of the ground they were defending.
The Ukrainians could not pierce the Orc defence, as they could not remove these mines effectively. The Orcs covered the routes with ATGMs, snipers, and artillery and had attack helicopters on standby.
If you need to learn about their proficiency in laying mines, the battle of Kursk in 1943 should be a good lecture.
In short, they are REALLY good at that and, certainly, it's one of their strongest points.
As I've explained it to you many times, the Ukrainians could not deploy too many AD systems close to the frontline, as the Orcs were bombing their cities and power plants. Ukraine is not Holland where you could cover the whole territory with three Patriot batteries and their ranges would be overlapping.
It's not what I think.
The Ukrainians cannot coordinate brigades in most scenarios. The intrusion into the Kursk Oblast plus the Kharkiv offensive in 2022 were the only examples where they did it effectively.
There are no divisions and corpses in the Ukrainian Army, brigades don't cooperate in most cases, and some brigade commanders hate one another.
The Ukrainians are obsessed with forming new units, the way Hitler did, but they don't replenish the core and the most experienced brigades. The 72nd Mechanised Brigade, which gave the Orcs a bloody nose when they tried to attack Vuhledar in 2022, was routed when the Orcs took over Vuhledar a few weeks ago. The Ukrainians totally wasted one of their best brigades by not replenishing it and not giving it any rest. How many years do you want random soldiers to be effective for? AFAIK, our missions in #shitholeCountries lasted for 6 months, soldiers were rotated, and another unit replaced them, so the first unit could have some rest and come back to a particular #shitholeCountry after 1-2 years and still be effective. In contrast, many Ukrainian units have been fighting since February 2022 without any rest.
The Orcs use totally different tactics: they push forward and suffer massive losses, so there's hardly anyone who has been participating in the war for 2.5 years. Some RuZZian airborne/marine brigades and tank regiments have been destroyed 2-3 times and they have been rebuilt from scratch. An Orc infantry company can lose 70 men in a week, but another 70 come, so RuZZian soldiers are less tired.
They rotate their units quite frequently and the few Wagner guys who were able to survive did not go to jail again.
In general, you are totally unaware of the Ukrainian limitations.
You truly believed that the West would donate a few tens of F16s and it would be a game-changer.
I was really worried about some countries not giving their F16s to the Ukrainians, while the major problem were not these countries but the Ukrainians themselves.
US Shifts Focus to Training Ukrainian Cadets on F-16s, Delaying Squadron Stand-Up
The WSJ reports that the shift is expected to push back Ukraine's timeline for fielding a whole F-16 squadron by several months.
www.kyivpost.com
You look at that from the perspective of a Dutchman, so your point of view is totally distorted.
In general, the Dutch are very proficient in English, while your proficiency is way above the national average in your country.
I met many Dutchmen in my life, because I grew up in a little town in Poland that was visited by Dutchmen every year, as Druten is our partner town. These people were good at English and they had a very healthy lifestyle. Many Dutchmen have hobbies that keep them fit. They ride bikes, practise judo or other martial arts and they live in a clean environment.
There's nothing like that in Ukraine. Very few people speak English and their lifestyle is not healthy in case of a big percentage of the population.
Being a modern fighter pilot, who wants to use a Western fighter, requires exceptional health, rather than just a very good one, and very good English. The F16 is not the Spitfire or the Sopwith Camel. The Americans train totally different pilots than the Ukrainians. They pick very young candidates and train them to be aces. They don't want to train people in their 40s, as the Ukrainians would like to do, as they know it does not make any sense. Training a modern fighter pilot is extremely costly, so they want to keep him active before retirement as long as possible.
Again, I heard a retired Polish Air Force commander talking about his training on F16s. He spent a fvckton of time learning English in the U.S.A. and it took him more time than learning how to fly an F16. A normal Dutchman or an Englishman simply does not understand it from his point of view. With English lessons added and his experience flying an F16 in Poland, he said it took him 10 years to be as good as the American instructors who trained him. I was shocked, but it's what he said.
In the meantime, some people truly believe an experienced Ukrainian MiG-29 or Su-27 pilot can be trained within a few months and he will erase the Orcs from the sky.
These "bits and bobs" can be referred to the Americans. They donated a negligible part of their potential, but they think about China.
Speaking of Europe, we clearly donated much more than just bits and bobs and we have not replenished what we have given.
You are on the 2% target on defence spending, but it won't make up for your small spending in the past.
You could easily take the Americans out of the equation if Taiwan and Israel needed bigger military assistance. They would prioritise it over Europe. If somebody thinks differently, they are out of touch with reality. Certainly, they cannot deliver supplies to two or three war theatres at the same time.
Furthermore, looking at the U.S. debt would be very helpful:
US debt ceiling - what it is and why there is one
Congress has approved a deal on the debt limit. But what is the debt ceiling and why does it exist?
www.bbc.co.uk
Their missions in #shitholeCountries have greatly contributed to the current debt level, so spending their money on another war makes things even worse.
Again, remember what I said about the grandma having balls. You were very enthusiastic about the Ukrainian offensive in 2023. You did not say "if we give 500 Leopard 2s, 2000 M1s, two aircraft carriers, 200 F35s and 300 PzH2000s". You knew what they got and you predicted that the offensive would succeed. Also, I remember you having raised your concern about a large number of armed RuZZians revolting against Putin as early as 2022, giving the WW1 as an example.
So what? You keep believing that pushing the RuZZian Army out of Ukraine would have finished the war which is plainly wrong.
Speaking of artillery shells, the Orcs have already used 22 million of them, as a Polish analyst mentioned two days ago. He also said the average RuZZian SPH endurance is 2000 shells, so they have already used up 11,000 barrels and their production process is very lengthy. That's the only good news.
In contrast, a Polish Krab can fire up to 8000 shells before its barrel needs to be replaced, while exceeding 4000 shots is very common.
On the other hand, what are we talking about if the whole NATO had a reserve of 1 million 155mm shells at the end of 2021? We cannot replenish what we have already donated and we buy artillery shells from Pakistan and Serbia to donate them to Ukraine. We produce more than we did in 2022, but the increase is not so massive.
The Ukrainians don't use guided bombs very frequently. They mostly use GLMRS missiles that are not as effective as they used to be.
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The person who would decide that Poland should attack anybody should be thrown to the lions unless he was diagnosed with mental illness. That's the only mitigating factor.
Speaking straightforwardly, we don't have any artillery shells left. Before the end of 2021, our shell stock would have lasted for 7 days of a full-scale conflict.
However, we donated the vast majority of them to Ukraine together with 90% of our homemade 155mm SPHs.
We don't produce any 155mm artillery shells, but we assemble about 35,000-40,000 of them from components imported from Czechia every year. It's more than extremely likely that we still donate some of them to Ukraine.
10,000 shells is the number the Ukrainians fired every day during the offensive in Zaporozhya in 2023.
In contrast, the Orcs fired 50,000-60,000 122/152mm artillery shells a day in the spring of 2022 before the Ukrainians started HIMARS-ing their ammo dumps in the summer of that year.
I'm not revealing any secrets, as everybody talks about it in Poland.
We signed a contract with Rheinmetall to buy 50,000 artillery shells from them, that is already a tiny number, but they outsourced it to their plant in South Africa. The South Africans refused the sale, as they thought we could have donated those shells to Ukraine.
South Africa blocks artillery shell delivery to Poland
South African authorities have blocked the supply of artillery shells from the German concern Rheinmetall's plant located in the country to Poland
mil.in.ua
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My Turkish friend in Ukraine
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Very typical, but the thing is, this guy was a respected Orc commander who became a war hero during the battle of Avdiivka:
meduza.io
‘Held captive by his own side’ Russian military officers ran a ‘torture prison’ for soldiers under their command, beating and extorting them for money, relatives say — Meduza
Pro-Kremlin bloggers are fiercely debating the September arrest of Vladimir Novikov, a military commander in Ukraine’s occupied Donbas region, who some claim has been unfairly targeted after allegedly “stepping on the toes” of drug dealers selling to soldiers. But a Telegram channel reportedly...
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Cool video wanna visit those russian museums i guess Ruskis are best at building musea
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THEIR window is closing total panic to rob as much of Ukraine as possible until a peace negotiation. What an outlook.
But I think many in the conservative branch wake up and see the deceit Russia hates everyone even itself.
Butter is getting locked in supermarkets.
Airlines are supported by billions traffic would otherwise be down to. 74 Mill. passengers flying national in Rashistan. With 4,5 bill help from the Kremlin 94 mill. pax could be transported around Putlers Reich. 30 airlines making up a quarter of pax may cease operations next year.
They don't have the money to "buy back" the stolen planes.
www.fr.de
But I think many in the conservative branch wake up and see the deceit Russia hates everyone even itself.
Butter is getting locked in supermarkets.
Airlines are supported by billions traffic would otherwise be down to. 74 Mill. passengers flying national in Rashistan. With 4,5 bill help from the Kremlin 94 mill. pax could be transported around Putlers Reich. 30 airlines making up a quarter of pax may cease operations next year.
They don't have the money to "buy back" the stolen planes.
Schwere Niederlage für Putin – Sanktionen bringen Russlands Wirtschaft in Turbulenzen
Aufgrund von Sanktionen waren hunderte westliche Flugzeuge in Russland blockiert. Diese wurden von Russland einfach konfisziert. Dies könnte nun zu Insolvenzen führen.
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At the homefront butter is getting stolen.
This honest Russian tells another story than the Western shill travelling with Russel wearing a rip curl hat. Doesn't his commie empire provide him with fancy apparel?
I also learned that there are two types of butter in Russia the good western one and the poor quality Russian one...
The Führer promised both though...
This honest Russian tells another story than the Western shill travelling with Russel wearing a rip curl hat. Doesn't his commie empire provide him with fancy apparel?
I also learned that there are two types of butter in Russia the good western one and the poor quality Russian one...
The Führer promised both though...
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A retired Polish intelligence officer made a comment about this gun and he said something like that: "this gun was developed to terrorise Seoul and it's extremely inaccurate. It's used to shoot at a large area, like a big city, where accuracy is unimportant. The North Koreans have never mastered production of such a long barrel in one piece. That's why the barrel consists of two pieces and it's far less durable because of that. The enormous charge, that's used to fire a shell, strains the barrel even more. The RuZZians don't have any compatible ammunition and have to import these 170mm shells from NK."
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That was predictable as they were trying to surround Kupyansk the last weeks.
Really sad news. This is actually worse than loosing Bahkmut or Avdivka as it gets them more strategical gain. The city will be lost following the next days as Ukraine struggles with lack of soldiers on that area.
The person who would decide that Poland should attack anybody should be thrown to the lions unless he was diagnosed with mental illness. That's the only mitigating factor.
Speaking straightforwardly, we don't have any artillery shells left. Before the end of 2021, our shell stock would have lasted for 7 days of a full-scale conflict.
However, we donated the vast majority of them to Ukraine together with 90% of our homemade 155mm SPHs.
We don't produce any 155mm artillery shells, but we assemble about 35,000-40,000 of them from components imported from Czechia every year. It's more than extremely likely that we still donate some of them to Ukraine.
10,000 shells is the number the Ukrainians fired every day during the offensive in Zaporozhya in 2023.
In contrast, the Orcs fired 50,000-60,000 122/152mm artillery shells a day in the spring of 2022 before the Ukrainians started HIMARS-ing their ammo dumps in the summer of that year.
I'm not revealing any secrets, as everybody talks about it in Poland.
We signed a contract with Rheinmetall to buy 50,000 artillery shells from them, that is already a tiny number, but they outsourced it to their plant in South Africa. The South Africans refused the sale, as they thought we could have donated those shells to Ukraine.
South Africa blocks artillery shell delivery to Poland
South African authorities have blocked the supply of artillery shells from the German concern Rheinmetall's plant located in the country to Poland
Most of those video from C. Ranger are pure youtuber garbage tbh...
An episode of a Ukrainian FPV drone pursuing a Russian UAZ Patriot. The drone was pursuing the Russian vehicle, but then the operator decided to change the target and returned to a group of soldiers, where it was shot down with small arms fire.
Russian Su-34, Su-24M and Su-25SM aircraft began using OFZAB-500 high-explosive incendiary aviation bombs with UMPK modules in Ukraine. Some media reported on the OFZAB-1500 bomb, but they are not made in Russia and are not listed in catalogs. The OFZAB-500 aerial bomb was developed by the Bazalt State Research and Production Enterprise and was adopted by Russia in 2001. Due to the combined effects of fragmentation, high explosive and thermal fields, the bomb is particularly effective and affects everything within a radius of 290 meters, the temperature at the epicenter of the explosion is about 900 degrees. The bomb weighs 500 kg, is made of cast iron and has an incendiary mixture weighing 250 kg and 37.5 kg of explosives. The Russian OFZAB-500 aerial bomb is dropped at an altitude of 900 to 12,000 meters at an aircraft speed of 550 to 1,850 km/h. When equipped with a UMPK, the flight range of the OFZAB-500 bomb is about 60 km.
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Look at the Kremlin clowns todays joke:
www.cnbc.com
I would now give Ukraine 10 times more missiles so he can prove his new "nuclear" war threat.
What a desperate schizo.
Russia says Ukraine attacked it using U.S. long-range missiles, signals it's ready for nuclear response
Russia has signaled to the West it's ready for a nuclear confrontation.
I would now give Ukraine 10 times more missiles so he can prove his new "nuclear" war threat.
What a desperate schizo.
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