I guess they were warning shots? Some people have said that they were Russian soldiers dressed as civilians trying to escape, but that's impossible to verify. Apparently according to some Russian accounts (again, salt needed), a 24 year old woman was shot dead in her car by Ukrainian forces:

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I'd assume that if that's the case, it was likely an accident. If not, it's one for the courts...
There's plenty of footage of military-age Chechen men in civilian cars and drab fleeing the area, e.g. here:

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I'm not saying that's what's happened there, it's entirely possible that civilians were mistakenly or even deliberately targeted. However. The situation is way too unclear to render judgements right now. I have no reason to believe that Ukrainian troops intend to cause deliberate damage to Russian civilians. Quite the contrary, there's plenty of footage and Telegram posts linked on r/UkraineWarVideoReport suggesting that civilians receive medical help and are even allowed to return to their homes to retrieve documents, pets and so on.

At the end of the day, this is war. A war which Russia started. Because of that, all of Russia's territory is a legitimate target for Ukraine military action.
 
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Not saying this is happening, just an interesting map.

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Three days ago, this looked like a border raid to create chaos, discredit Putin's rule and lift morale in Ukraine.

Two days ago, it looked like this was a diversion to end the Russian push on Charkiw.

Yesterday, it'd looked likey they meant to make the frontline shorter by cutting off that bulge of the border between Kursk and Belgorod.

Today, there's a real chance that Ukraine actually keeps a substantial chunk of Russia occupied for a substantial amount of time.

And that time might be longer than many people think. With the ability to use conscripts, Russia has a massive superiority in manpower, but they don't have the equipment. It's all in Ukraine, especially their tanks and anti-air. If the Ukrainians manage to hold on to their gains, at least the push onto Charkiw will have to be abandoned, and there'll probably even be diversions from other parts of the frontline, slowing them down there. The defenders are Kadyrov's clowns, demotivated conscripts and +40-year-old mobiks who've sat there on their arses for almost two years. And they're facing combat hardened troops with Strykers and Leopard 2 tanks.

This is not a raid, it's an invasion, and it won't be over anytime soon. Even if this operation goes south for Ukraine, it won't be over for weeks.

Rybar and Fighterbomber are in full-on panic mode right now, it's genuinely hilarious.

But what they tell their followers is also legitimately scary. It seems as if the Ukrainians advance under a cover of electronic warfare assets, mobile SAMs and a shitton of drones. They take out all Russian drones, advance with their own drones, and subsequently their mechanised infantry follows to destroy what little has managed to survive the drones. I read claims that a Russian infantry company was attacked by 90 FPV drones over a one-hour period. Can you imagine the sheer terror? Jesus Christ.
 
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A large drone attack on Russia's Lipetsk Air Base. (Source) Possibly another Morosovsk, that's some big-ass explosions.

Stepanovka, a village some 50 kilometres to the northwest of Sudhza, is on fire after Ukrainian strikes. (Source)

The Russians have brought Wagner back from Belarus. (Source) Oh, the irony.

Last but not least: 'Bloomberg' reports that the Russians knew about the Ukrainians gathering their forces, but nobody dared tell Putin. (Source)

Gerassimov is living proof that authoritarian states, and Russia in particular, are not meritocracies.
 
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If I were them, I would have turned around before the first mine barrier... I dont get it, as a civilian, If I see plumes of smoke and hear gunshots, i dont drive into it. I turn araound and move away as fast as i can... And especialy in this vid they drive 3 times (?) through the contestet Crossroad...
 
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what did they expect driving in circles in an active combat zone and its not like the Orcs have not used unmarked civilian vehicles before.
and No, AussieCosack aka Putin Cockholster a war crime is where you deliberately kill civilians out of hand like Bucha.

Shots heard, no sound of breaking glass so I think the vid is not really representative of the claims.
 
Himars strike during the night. 14 Urals and Kamaz trucks wiped out, each carrying troops. Sheesh. That's at least a company gone, probably more.

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There's plenty of footage of military-age Chechen men in civilian cars and drab fleeing the area, e.g. here:

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I'm not saying that's what's happened there, it's entirely possible that civilians were mistakenly or even deliberately targeted. However. The situation is way too unclear to render judgements right now. I have no reason to believe that Ukrainian troops intend to cause deliberate damage to Russian civilians. Quite the contrary, there's plenty of footage and Telegram posts linked on r/UkraineWarVideoReport suggesting that civilians receive medical help and are even allowed to return to their homes to retrieve documents, pets and so on.

At the end of the day, this is war. A war which Russia started. Because of that, all of Russia's territory is a legitimate target for Ukraine military action.
what civilians are they? are they speaking russian? doesnt sound like russian to me, but what do i know. can anyone trtanslate what they are saying?
 
There's an absolutely hilarious video of those twats floating about, where they're pretending they're defending the Kursk border rambo-style. Can't find it right now, unfortunately, but they're just screaming like maniacs and hip-firing their AKs doing pirouettes.

Others here might've seen it, too.
 
Quite a good hit on the column.

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On a Russian site I follow, there was an article about FSB arresting a citizen for posting a similar vid of this destroyed convoy on social media. Prison awaits him!

ETA: I was going to post the article, but to no one's surprise, it's disappeared already.
 
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Rybar is fuming right now.
Russian tv crews are pulling a "As you can see behind me, our tanks are in village XYZ and approaching the Ukrainian positions".

Journalists being journalists, eh.
 

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