Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.

[Telmar]

https://archive.md/20250627130556/https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000#selection-977.0-977.101

The distribution centers typically open for just one hour each morning. According to officers and soldiers who served in their areas, the IDF fires at people who arrive before opening hours to prevent them from approaching, or again after the centers close, to disperse them. Since some of the shooting incidents occurred at night – ahead of the opening – it's possible that some civilians couldn't see the boundaries of the designated area.

There have been many tragic shootings around these distribution centers. It´s not OK at all, and this is on Israel to organize better with the relief agency.

 

[primer]

Don't see these shooting despite plenty of phones. Who is shooting who and why.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Honey, bring out the fine China, we are celebrating.

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[Telmar]

Not everything is filmed by a phone.

But the IDF does recognize they occasionnaly need to shoot, and they are probing if there could have been casualties.

In most of these cases, the IDF has admitted to opening fire and striking Palestinians, but characterized it as “warning shots” at those who got too close to soldiers or used site access routes when distribution sites were closed.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-confirms-probe-into-killings-near-gaza-aid-site-denies-troops-ordered-to-shoot-civilians/

 

[primer]

Maybe they are using this;
‘The machine did it coldly’: Israel used AI to identify 37,000 Hamas targets This article is more than 1 year old Israeli intelligence sources reveal use of ‘Lavender’ system in Gaza war and claim permission given to kill civilians in pursuit of low-ranking militants

Not only try and control the aid going to Hamas but also line them up with only 3 suppliers and get more personal data.
End of the day it looks very bad like a scene from a apocolypse movie and more food for the anti Isreal. Hamas wins if it gets the aid or not.

 

[FLYNAVY]

Yeah, thank you for confirming the Sniffers.

I wondered about it earlier.




So, no radiation picked up.

What could that mean? Basically either there is radioactive stuff in Fordow, or not.

There is radioactive material:

-But there is no fire.
And I think that's the case for the reasons I mentioned. Therefore no combustion, no emanations of smoke and such. If such a case was occurring, for the reasons, again, I mentioned, and the apparent lack of damage control, since we haven't seen firefighters on site (as of yet at least), by now we would have been seeing something coming out from the ground. Underground "industrial" fire, burning uncontrolled for several days would likely cause serious damages to the structure and compromise its integrity (which was already compromised by the 12 MOPs dropped on it).

-Somehow the debris, dust, sand, rocks, etc... falling back into the broken shafts managed to seal them and keep them air-tight.
--The inside of the complex has been destroyed, but due to the shafts being sealed back, the target being so deep and not directly at the point of impact, it could be that what was relied upon was blast effect. Therefore the blast could have pushed radioactive material in directions opposite to any ventilation paths.
---Which would explain why we aren't picking anything. Though... heh... I'd still expect a very small trace. But I am no sniffer.


-No fire, no traces of radioactivity, nothing, etc... because there was no radioactive material in Fordow when the strike occurred.




And now it appears excavators are working near the entry points.

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What for though? Working on new entry points? Cleaning up to further seal the thing?

Our civil engineers have explained over evening meal the blue/gray dust outside the ventilation shafts where the MOPs entered is the belched/blasted out burned dense carbon fibers & bulk steel fibers reinforcing the high strength concrete roofs of the centrifuge hall's thick ceilings [so halls/centrifuges destroyed & the hasty concrete cap that was poured once they knew Fordow was going to get bombed. Covert IDF special forces were on the ground lately & report soil samples test for minor radiation [half life of 60% Uranium 235 is 704 million years] so we know the halls were penetrated & destroyed. [Overflight sniffers picked up normal background radiation levels] The timeline of the humanitarian notice given is still classified but the same military contacts that agreed to the ceasefire are the same ones given notice to evac the site [US leadership has a heart, why should worker bees need to suffer a heinous death trapped in that hell even if it was quick]. Agree & just my guess is the rock & dirt has caved in escentially sealing radiation under that mountain hopefully. Should still slurry concrete plugs in the future. Short fire that didn't last more than a few minutes after the blast seems to support that lack of oxygen theory. Testing will probably need to monitor future years but not sure how to mediate the site other than fence & hang a warning sign. Iran had bombed the roads leading into the site so maybe that'll help. I've heard they sealed the access into the tunnel to the mountain but don't know big a plug was dumped in. The other sites bombed 21JUN have similar issues.
Concerns of the interim Iran military leadership is essentially Iran is left defenseless without the nuke threat, low stores of offensive missiles & a reliable missile defense. Hopefully the Abraham Accords will keep some of the adjacent neighbors off but attacks are a big worry for Hadjii. Smarter people above my paygrade are on this & hope they get it worked out. But, quite a few elite billionaire Iranian families laundering oil sales will be in jail soon & their bank accounts given back to the Iranian people. Meetings sometime next week, probably in Qatar with the new interim Gov't. So far the media hasn't been asking the right questions, they still see a failed B-2 mission & anything that paints the US President & team in a bad light. Look over here something shiney works again.

 

[BeNder]

https://www.foxnews.com/world/idf-k...eemed-orchestrator-oct-7-terror-attack-israel

 

[FLYNAVY]

He was exterminated & hit so hard that his remains were difficult to identify. He liked to paint his toe nails bright red with a little green [sometimes black] penis on each one. Fortunately his toes survived the direct hit. His husband was injured but should survive. The couple had no children.

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[FLYNAVY]

Gaza has turned into just a pile of rubble, literally just smashed pieces of concrete. When about 10 city blocks have been blasted & blasted they are pushed by a huge Cat D-9 bull dozier into the Med Sea ddown to bare sand & ready to develop into ritzy ocean front hotels & high rises. The next Dubai I guess. I guess Israel still owns the land. Maybe it'll be a big tourist destination one of these days.....anyway I think the game plan is to end Hamas once & for all since it's sounding like Iran has stopped giving them orders & funding their little war games. Hopefully this last constant sorties should convince them to hand over all the hostages & remains.

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[Hiryu2.0]

The troll farms and bot armies of Russia and Iran are taking over MAGA’s online world

A new report from the Network Contagion Research Institute (NCRI) details a coordinated influence operation by Russian and Iranian actors aimed at U.S. conservative audiences — especially online communities that identify with the MAGA movement. The campaign deploys inauthentic accounts...

kyivinsider.com

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Wrong thread.

In addition to being sewage level "journalism", pissed at the fact the US chose to invest itself more into protecting Israel than Ukraine.

 

[primer]

They do have an actual alliance treaty. But all the same there is the sense that Trump and the isolationists are counting the stuff that's sent.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

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[Hiryu2.0]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/technology/israel-hamas-information-war.html?unlocked_article_code=1.SU8.otZH.VOimjdhsnmU6&smid=url-share

 

[Hiryu2.0]

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/06/27/politics/bunker-buster-bomb-isfahan-iran?fbclid=IwY2xjawLN1iNleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETA3NEZMVDNJbkFuMXpVcWNSAR4sAVhqDoepmU5JvFT4WI-jknY4-hLFWYL-F_wiHPMisFwEeXAtbX5aaUCouw_aem_0VC6Ej5XgC4Wk8wRnBwjcA

 

[Redav]

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[Ivan le Fou]

They do have an actual alliance treaty. But all the same there is the sense that Trump and the isolationists are counting the stuff that's sent.

Oh yes, there are a few treaties going on.

But in the current context, especially with regard to the "12 days war", Iran was pretty much left to enjoy the FO of the FA on its own. Full and comprehensive "I aint touching that" all across the board.

Troll farm wise, there are. Or rather, there are people who support Iran and hate the US and Israel. That's life, I guess.

But tying it to MAGA is just plain dumb, especially when using Hinckle as an example. The dude is... don't really know what he could qualify as. He isn't a troll or a grifter, he is something else beyond that, he kind of is a case of his very own.
As for the rest, people pretending to be veterans, pretending to be from the US, pretending this and that, etc.. there is nothing new under the sun. That's something done for literally any topic.

Funnily enough though, it seems the outlet H2O chose to share is lacking both insight and self-awareness to realize it is guilty, by its own admission, of doing the very thing it accuses others of doing.


There are isolationists in the US, for valid reasons I would say, to various degrees.
But there might be a confusion or misunderstanding on the approach. Though some might be genuine isolationists, as in cutting ties "leave us alone, deal with your own problems" kind of approach, there might some whose position is simply "let us not get involved more than necessary and pump the brakes on interventionism".
Just like "counting the stuff that is sent" can also be seen as changing the approach the solve an issue; you can't keep on shoveling sand into a broken hoping it will stop the reservoir from spilling out. There has to be another way, and I feel that's the path Trump is trying to explore.

And again, there also is the entire point regarding the strong Historical ties shared between Israel and the US.

 

[primer]

It is good the F*** word ended it. The last salvo and attack both sides knew were an automatic obligation but the Isreali's turned around. Hopefully that's like turning the other cheek but all the same very uniIsreali. Trump credited with ending a war prematurely.
Taiwan is on the todo list. This must be taken into account for the Patriots supplies.
A Ukraine reporter asked Trump for help. Got a conciliatory good luck. If they were plentiful would the question need asking.
The question was can Ukraine buy them please.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Reportedly the US fired a substantial number of THAADs during the 12 days.

Keeping Patriots would be the smart thing to do "just in case".

 

[Mike1976]

Reportedly the US fired a substantial number of THAADs during the 12 days.

Keeping Patriots would be the smart thing to do "just in case".

The two aren't really comparable. The same difference between SM-3 and SM-6.

The Chinese ballistic missiles are larger (heavier). Intercepting them in the terminal phase would imo likely be more difficult than most types of Iranian missiles. Even more so when they carry MRV/MIRV.