Warfare Russia/Ukraine War

[Fluff]

I won't lie, I kind of enjoy it.

But I also don't.

Problem with that kind of system (Tochka): it is old, it is still used by many countries.
So, you have to look at markings, and how these markings are "marked".
Then determine what variant it is, then when the picture was taken, where. If reverse-search don't come up with anything and you are running out of key-words; cross reference hints.

Tochka is painted: who fields painted Tochkas? Where painted Tochkas have been seen? Wrecks of painted Tochkas are seen where?

It was either Ukraine, Armenia or Yemen. Syria fields Tochkas, outsourced from DPRK (and Russia back in 2017), but no results came up from that part of the world.

Apart from being out of Russia's inventory, Russians rarely painted their Tochkas, not even in Chechnya or Afghanistan.

Plenty of pictures of Russian tochkas being sent to Ukraine. And of course both sides could capture them from the other, but mostly Russia doing the capturing, in those heady early days of glory……

 

[Fluff]

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What looks like a composite unit of the 4th Guards Tank Division (T-80Us, T-80BVMs, T-80BVs, BMP-2s) crossing the Severniy Donets river, probably around Izyum. This is the first I've seen of the announced redeployment of units (the 4th was previously fighting around Kharkov).

Now, what this tells me is the following:

1. Yes, the Russians are redeploying in force to the Donbass, with the probable aim of destroying the JFO units (something I thought would be the objective of Phase 1 before the war, without the parallel Kiev, Chernigov and Sumy fuckery).

2. The 4th GTD has been badly mauled. The diversity of the equipment probably means that this group is made up of various companies from different regiments of the division.

3. The rest of the division is probably being refitted and will rejoin the fight in about a month or so.

4. Inshallah, brothers morale very high. You don't send a unit whose ass has been kicked fairly recently (and it has) and which is demoralized as well. My guess is that these men are pissed off (at their higher command as much as the Ukrainians, but that's another subject altogether) and eager for revenge.

There gonna be truly pissed of when they come up against early abrams, and early leo2, if they make it past the drones and nlaw’s that is.

 

[Mordoror]

Asking for MLRS, Tanks, Arty in 155, not 152. You have it, please give it to us, and we will finish the job.

Seems fair to me.

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No 152 mm anymore because it seems all shelves for that caliber are empty be it in Ukraine but also in NATO operators that gave all their shell stockpiles.
High Intensity warfare guys, it eats ammo like nothing else (incidentely, this is showing the true face of the war : it is not small scale infantry contacts but a highly mechanized war. Just that this is barely filmed)

 

[Fluff]

Rouble is growing, Dvornikov is in command...

Thats it! Mother Russia is safe now!

PS To be honest I thought for a moment it was the beggining of the end... ???

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Safe? Russia was perfectly safe before all this. It now has created a mortal enemy directly on its border, it’s in the process of losing most of its current rich energy customers, and its entire military is a laughing stock. Regime change here we come.

 

[Chazman]

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Looks like he was about to light up a Benson & Hedges 100, when the photographer snapped the pic.

 

[CatPaw]

You remember you were drawing parallels with the 1st Chechnya. It was so spot on. The parallels are staggering. After watching what was happening in the North for few days (Kiev, Chernigov, Sumy) I knew it was a military disaster in making. I mean sending mechanized columns deep into enemy controlled territory etc. Things were so f*cked up!

It immediately reminded me the New Years Eve Assault on Grozny in 1995 but on MUCH LARGER scale. Back in 1995 several batallions (most notably 131st mechanized brigade and 81st mechanized regiment) were wiped out due to f*cked up leadership by Pulikovsky. As a result the Afganistan veteran Lev Rokhlin stepped in to take command of what was left of Pulikovsky troops and won the Battle of Grozny.

So after watching all the sh*t happening in the North and Lapin f*cking up everything I was wondering who will become the nowdays Rokhlin to take command after the initial failure to sort the things out. Boom! Few weeks ago I came across Dvornikov. Chechnya and Syria veteran. After looking at his backgroing I thought to myself "We definately need this guy to run the whole thing!" And now after few weeks they put him in charge! Can you imagine? ITS SO F*CKING GOOD!!!!!!!!!!

So now the draw is guaranteed. No question about that. I predict Ukrainians will bled themselves dry in the following weeks trying to take back Russian held territory in the South under constant bombardment by RuAF. Then they will be forced to sign peace deal on our terms. This is the worst case scenario. But most likely Russians will push forward and gain more territory...

F*CK YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Telmar]

Donating the S300 system will open in Slovak parliament a request of non confidence vote in the present government by opposition parties.

Main opposition leader says the S300 is a better system than the Patriot batteries (which i doubt) and that Patriot batteries in SK are only "lent" to Slovakia and their return to the Netherlands or Germany would leave Slovakia without an air defense system...which is more factual but Slovakia is part of NATO so that does not mean a fully opened sky. he also claimed the Poles were smarter and did not want to give their Migs.

Ukraine will never forget it. Zelensky thanks Slovakia - The Slovak Spectator

PM Eduard Heger met highest state representatives of Ukraine during his visit to Kyiv.

spectator.sme.sk

 

[bald head & beard]

Russia hasn't lost (yet)
According to western intelligence, between 15 to 20% of its BCT are to be written off so losses are significant
But Russia can still bite (in particular when we don't know the Ukrainian level of losses which is certainly significant too, they began with less BCT than Russia to begin with)
Russia armed forces are (re)adapting themselves. It is the worse situation (changing doctrine under fire) but they are reorganizing themselves by separating artillery and infantry (that were combined but in unbalanced number in the BCT) and forming contact combat groups and support artillery batteries, more suited for urban warfare.
The question will be a run between losses - refurbishment - re(learning) of combat rules - replenishment/rest/reinforcment in men
They can recover efficient units provided they reorganize and regroup. However, it seems political achievments are still getting priorities over military achievments (reports are that units removed from North Kiev AO are sendt in Eastern AO but not in mass, only as they are arriving)
So it will also be up to the HQ brasses to make their voices heard. Dunno if it is still possible

They lost because they will be far worse than if they did not invade both on short and long term. And they did not need to invade at all.
It is one of the biggest geostrategic fuckups in modern history. Even if they manage to snatch Donbass in its whole and get some favorable terms you are still left with a ruined economy and army which potentially would take more than a decade just to get back where they were in 2013-2015.
Also, Russia has never been the least safe since the fall of the USSR.
On top of that they have managed to solidify the west and they will become entirely reliant on China for everything.

Putin went all in and he lost. If their plan A worked this would have been a full opposite, however that failed and now its all about damage control.

 

[Paya]

There gonna be truly pissed of when they come up against early abrams, and early leo2, if they make it past the drones and nlaw’s that is.

Who's gonna send them those? So far the Czechs and the Poles are the only ones donating heavy equipment, T-72M1s and BMP-1s.

 

[BravoZulu]

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[HAL9000]

And we need Strelkov... We need him so badly...

 

[Fluff]

Who's gonna send them those? So far the Czechs and the Poles are the only ones donating heavy equipment, T-72M1s and BMP-1s.

The independent statehood of Sealand. Very big arms exporter. No one knows where they get it from. Or even where they store it.

Principality of Sealand - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Fluff]

And we need Strelkov... We need him so badly...

After his camping trip to Chernobyl, he is currently being cloned. So out for the duration.

 

[Chazman]

I also dont get the excitement. Russia already lost, its over for her and for her future as a credible power and has basically killed off any chance of her citizens to ever catch up with the west in terms of living standards.
He can improve some things, there is a result that you can build on in the south, but he is not going to solve Russia's problems or all the issues their military is facing.

Russia certainly hasn't gained anything. If they lose this Donbas offensive, they are done. Put a fork in them. Done as in regime change. And you can lie to the Russian people all you want, but eventually Russian parents will ask, why did my son die? Where is my son's body?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

By the way, since we are talking about Tochkas and serial numbers...

The one that fell on Kramatorsk yesterday was serialized 91579, belonging to the same batch as those that were registered as falling on Donbass since 2014.

«Точки» над Ü

Каталогизация пусков и анализ применения тактического ракетного комплекса Точка/Точка-У в вооруженном конфликте на Донбассе Попробуем максимально детально описать каждый случай применения

pravdoryb-info.translate.goog

 

[surfpunk]

Some nice combat footage from Mariupol!

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I like how they put the civilians on top of the IFV

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I like how they put the civilians on top of the IFV

BTR is pretty much a death-trap if you are inside when it gets hit.
Hatches are narrow as hell.

 

[Mordoror]

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Well the irony is that Ukraine is still buying russian gas (even as they are fighting) too (at discount price moreover)
Capitalism baby .........

 

[Telmar]

By the way, since we are talking about Tochkas and serial numbers...

The one that fell on Kramatorsk yesterday was serialized 91579, belonging to the same batch as those that were registered as falling on Donbass...

That webnews source also says the moon landings are fake.

EDIT: not wanting to kill the messenger,...but sometimes the messenger is a little bit more than a messenger.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

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