Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.

I think there is a nuance to Jordan and Egypts position in that they think if they take them in, Isreal will never allow them to return thus grabbing further "palistinian" land.....
 
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Just a few points:
In Afghanistan, we tried to build a country, educate the women, hospitals. After years, and BN£$ the afghans made it clear they preferred the Taliban, mostly. So I struggle with the idea that HAMAS is some alien entity, why the hell would it setup shop in a shitty strip of land cut off from most of the World? So HAMAS is from the people in Gaza, specifically. A Hamas soldier has a mother, and a father, kids, etc.

Clearly the Jordanians, and the Egyptians see them for what they are, and wont allow anyone in from Gaza. But here in UK, we basically let anyone in, because they might not be horrible, or they could be gay, or claim to be gay....

So how come when Jordan and Egypt say it, everyone just says yes thats fine, but if UK did it, we are bad/racist etc. Its not racist to say we don't want the violence, strife etc we see on the news, on our streets, such as Brussels.


you think europe and the west let these animales in because "they might not be horrible" lol........ they let everyone in because letting everyone in means tolerance.... tolerance means progressive thinking..... progressive thinking means polls way way up there..... and when the polls are way way up.... politicians can stay sitting on that darn sh!tty chair of power.

what you wrote about afghanistan reminded me of a good and weirdly enough very true story...... a couple years back i met saddam hussein grand daughter..... she holds an english passport btw ..... anyways one thing let to another.... and she come to tell me.... good thing the foreign occupation left iraq ... i told her ... yeah they tried to help your people but unforuntely didnt work.... she proceeded to tell me....we want to stay were we are ....we are happy.... when i told her... saddam and his psyhco sons used to torture innocent people.... she responded with .... yeah ... this is how you control the people.


end of story is .... and as Emperor Trump once said.... that sh!tty part of the word is all sand,war and blood .... why do we want to fix it ..... leave them to be
 
any russian speaker can validate what this nazi fascist is ssaying??? in arabic the translation is "Russia will openly support and help palestine"

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It's BS.
 
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what do you think ?

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Complete and utter PR bullsh*t or a way to avert a ground invasion, Hamas realising they pushed the Israelis to respond more forcefully than they were prepared for.
 
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Deal - and Israel orders 1000 litres matt black paint.

No-no idea whose planes those are, bombing Gaza every night.....
 
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Similar to what happened in Israel not being factually reported, but in a style of "something happened in Israel and now the poor people of Gaza are collectively being genocided", this truth will never find it's way to your tv either, just spread on forums for people like us or at best Fox/Sky Australia.
 
as much as a tragedy the hospital bombardment in gaza is..civilians dont deserve this.... but what annoy the f*ck out of me is .... seeing all these arab countries "friends of israel " like saudi arabia,jordan and oman condemning israel on all news channels and not speaking one word of condemnation at hamas and the genocide they did to the israelies on the 7th of october

these double standards need to stop ... either denounce and castigate every single wrong doing regardless of the side doing it ... or stfu

hypocrites
 
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as much as a tragedy the hospital bombardment in gaza is..civilians dont deserve this.... but what annoy the f*ck out of me is .... seeing all these arab countries "friends of israel " like saudi arabia,jordan and oman condemning israel on all news channels and not speaking one word of condemnation at hamas and the genocide they did to the israelies on the 7th of october

these double standards need to stop ... either denounce and castigate every single wrong doing regardless of the side doing it ... or stfu

hypocrites
Those countries aren't friends of Israel, some of their regimes are allies of opportunity of Israel to counter Iran. The populations are 85%+ dirt poor religious zealots which only the security apparatus of those countries is keeping in check and the regimes in power.

If you want to trigger Arab Winter in those countries then make them state that they support Israel and see how quickly the regimes start falling and jihadists replacing them.
 
Your powerful enemy tells your people to move out of area A, into area B, to try to minimise casualties to your people. Your people move. You continue then, to launch rockets from area B, to attack the enemy. One of your water pipe rockets, lands in your only hospital....

I get that they are the enemy, but the wisdom isn't there, they must really really hate israel to basically continue to use their own people as protection for their fighters. Just as I still feel sorry for russian soldiers being minced in Ukraine, I feel some sorrow for the Palestinians, but really, form an uprising, kill hamas, make peace with Israel - you never know a meteor might wipe Israel out, but your 2M poor people aren't going to do it.
 
Don't think a single rocket (out of a salvo, so likely some kind of MLRS, this one launched late imo indicating some kind of malfunction) can cause that much damage even if the hospital isn't that big (more like a clinic) and packed with people. Probably set off ammo stored within or below the hospital ... or demo charges.

Biden is visiting tomorrow. What a coincidence for something like this to happen just hours prior to that. And yes, Hamas is ruthless enough to blow up 800 of their own sheeple to trigger the biased outrage of muslims.

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Don't think a single rocket can cause that much damage even if the hospital isn't that big (more like a clinic) and packed with people. Probably set off ammo stored within or below the hospital ... or demo charges.


If it was an ammo storage we wouldve seen secondary explosions...... No secondary explosions were seen which means no "munition held on the hospital grounds"
 
If it was an ammo storage we wouldve seen secondary explosions...... No secondary explosions were seen which means no "munition held on the hospital grounds"
To me it doesn't seem like enough of a blast to obliterate a hospital/that many people unless they were practically sleeping on top of one another.

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The footage I've seen only shows the initial impact and a few seconds after that. Not every kind of secondary explosion is instantaneous. Just because russia stores it's ammo out in the open doesn't mean it's common practice.

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To me it doesn't seem like enough of a blast to obliterate a hospital.
rocket has propellant as well, hospitals have oxygen cylinders, and other gases about the place. Very sad.
 
rocket has propellant as well
Depends on whether it malfunctioned or was intercepted, there was another small impact at around the same time which if it was intercepted would have been at least part of the propellant.

Considering the fact that they were screeching for days that their supplies were almost gone that would have been quite an amount of full cylinders still remaining.
 
To me it doesn't seem like enough of a blast to obliterate a hospital/that many people unless they were practically sleeping on top of one another.

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mhm definitley two interesting videos.... i really hope a hamas rocket did this.... cause the world needs to see the real face of hamas.....
 

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