Photos AR-15 style rifles in military and police service

[Ivan le Fou]

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[LimaCharles]

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I was surprised by this video, the AR9's Achilles heel has always almost entirely been it's Uzi patterned magazine or some form of tolerance stacking. But this one ran with no stoppages. That mag falling out as he said, was his fault. Doesn't matter if open or on a closed bolt, use the push/pull method to ensure that the magazine is fully seated.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I was surprised by this video, the AR9's Achilles heel has always almost entirely been it's Uzi patterned magazine or some form of tolerance stacking. But this one ran with no stoppages. That mag falling out as he said, was his fault. Doesn't matter if open or on a closed bolt, use the push/pull method to ensure that the magazine is fully seated.

Considering the size of the gun, and the task it was supposed to achieve I was kind of surprised they didn't chamber it with a bigger round.

However, being used by the DOE and considering what it is being used around, one might not want to have to deal with over-penetration.

 

[LimaCharles]

Considering the size of the gun, and the task it was supposed to achieve I was kind of surprised they didn't chamber it with a bigger round.

However, being used by the DOE and considering what it is being used around, one might not want to have to deal with over-penetration.

I've seen some of these guys, and truth be told some were studs while others had looked like Ricky Retardo's and Walter Mits whom had willingly dived into a surplus store looking like Stargate SG-1 larpers. Add in being unkempt and not clean looking, and well....soup sandwiches that made me worry a bit about our nuclear securities.

But for the gun itself, it was for using on trains that were nuclear transports and needed to be small and compact to maneuver onboard with. At the time it was easier to carry than full length M16's that they had had at the time.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

But for the gun itself, it was for using on trains that were nuclear transports and needed to be small and compact to maneuver onboard with. At the time it was easier to carry than full length M16's that they had had at the time.

I wondered about why they didn't go for another 9mm platform since they were pretty common at the time.

Then I saw it competed with the MP5K and won. I can see why to some extent, if only the barrel length and what comes with it.

 

[LimaCharles]

I wondered about why they didn't go for another 9mm platform since they were pretty common at the time.

Then I saw it competed with the MP5K and won. I can see why to some extent, if only the barrel length and what comes with it.

Cost per item and easier to train on folk whom were already trained on the platform itself.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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[LimaCharles]

That didn't take long for Mike to do a review for it, not surprised he stuck a red dot on it. Not saying it's a bad idea because it is isn't. But that guy caters to the cringe crowd where anything not tactical practical of some sort looking is a fudd to them*.

Fun fact about GT: He's the opposite of me where he's lefthanded but shoots righthanded because he's right eye dominant. Whereas I am righthanded but left eye dominant so I have to shoot southpaw.

*To anyone not from the US or is unaware, the term Fudd is a pejorative. They either think that we should be limited in gun ownership and poorly equipped because they are living in a bubble like Tim Waltz, or for lack of words not like Tim Waltz but strokes out if anyone has anything that it enhancing the gun; troglodytes and luddites**.

**They've blended fudd to be a catch all phrase, so anyone not in full kit with the latest and greatest with all the whistles is now a fudd. They don't have the mental capacity to use critical thinking with thought deduction that just because someone likes a revolver as example, is an actual fudd. They aren't a fudd, it just means they like old guns too and it's what the fringe cringe elements of the community who give us a bad name because of it.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

That didn't take long for Mike to do a review for it, not surprised he stuck a red dot on it. Not saying it's a bad idea because it is isn't. But that guy caters to the cringe crowd where anything not tactical practical of some sort looking is a fudd to them*.

Fun fact about GT: He's the opposite of me where he's lefthanded but shoots righthanded because he's right eye dominant. Whereas I am righthanded but left eye dominant so I have to shoot southpaw.

*To anyone not from the US or is unaware, the term Fudd is a pejorative. They either think that we should be limited in gun ownership and poorly equipped because they are living in a bubble like Tim Waltz, or for lack of words not like Tim Waltz but strokes out if anyone has anything that it enhancing the gun; troglodytes and luddites**.

**They've blended fudd to be a catch all phrase, so anyone not in full kit with the latest and greatest with all the whistles is now a fudd. They don't have the mental capacity to use critical thinking with thought deduction that just because someone likes a revolver as example, is an actual fudd. They aren't a fudd, it just means they like old guns too and it's what the fringe cringe elements of the community who give us a bad name because of it.

Character wise, GT is, indeed, unsavory at times to say the least. Not a great role model to put it mildly.

However he does come across some interesting guns and get to use them. So, while we can have an "academic" approach with FrgottenWeapons, for instance, GT gives us the opportunity to see the gun in action. Which is also nice.


Anyway, yeah, the red-dot is indeed a good idea. Especially in that configuration in fact. Aside from looking good (and looking good is by far the most important thing ever), it likely facilitate acquisition greatly, cowitness and does not add to the overall height of the gun.
Don't know if that surefire-reflex is NVG friendly though, but with a slightly bigger glass (like mepro for instance) I suppose the FOV would be a tad improved.

 

[LimaCharles]

Character wise, GT is, indeed, unsavory at times to say the least. Not a great role model to put it mildly.

However he does come across some interesting guns and get to use them. So, while we can have an "academic" approach with FrgottenWeapons, for instance, GT gives us the opportunity to see the gun in action. Which is also nice.


Anyway, yeah, the red-dot is indeed a good idea. Especially in that configuration in fact. Aside from looking good (and looking good is by far the most important thing ever), it likely facilitate acquisition greatly, cowitness and does not add to the overall height of the gun.
Don't know if that surefire-reflex is NVG friendly though, but with a slightly bigger glass (like mepro for instance) I suppose the FOV would be a tad improved.

Mike Jones (Garand Thumb) said himself that he wasn't a fan of social engineering, yet he still wants to do it. I dunno, I wouldn't care how much that check was because I am not selling my soul for cringe things and my integrity means more to me than making money off of the toxic fandoms.

GT used to be all that but when he added the troll Charlie and the toxic trash ate him up, it went downhill fast IMO and so I ended it with him the same as I gave up on Matt Carriker for letting it go to his head and catered to cringe elements in the car crap. Charlie was the living embodiment of all the pot stirring poo posting trolls on every gun board and the social medias, and I am extremely allergic to tango whiskey alpha tango's.

That reflex sight wasn't the best but he went for what we cloners call, peak clone aesthetic. It came out several years later (RX01} and was part of the first SOCOM package back in 1992. At that height, NVG friendly or not was too low to used as such as an absolute sight height of 1.40 which was NTCH aiming. There's a reason why Delta went for carry handle higher height Aimpoints. Anyways, he was still appealing to the try hards. It would be of no use when mounted to the firing ports in nuke trains, which is why there was a requirement for just a folding front sight and a flat surface to mount securely to the ports to.

 

[Kadir93]

Kosovar police officer handling a MPT-55 5.56mm assault rifle.

 

[santana]

Kosovar police officer handling a MPT-55 5.56mm assault rifle.

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Turkish made rifle ???

 

[Kadir93]

Turkish made rifle ???

Yes a Turkish AR derivate.

 

[LimaCharles]

The crescent is an indicator.

 

[PEMM]

Forgotten Weapons testing semi-automatic version of the next Finnish/Swedish service rifle (kind of). It's actually rifle for MPK (national defence association) Sako ARG S 40.

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[LimaCharles]

Forgotten Weapons testing semi-automatic version of the next Finnish/Swedish service rifle (kind of). It's actually rifle for MPK (national defence association) Sako ARG S 40.

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I haven't watched it yet, but I saw on reddit that the carrier has a gas key and not a piston block. Is this a direct impingement or an HK piston clone? Last I knew the Finns favored the AK system because of it's over-gassed design is a feature to still be serviceable even with ice forming on the inside with the piston. Or has direct impingement shown to be favorable in Finland winter conditions?

Watching the Finnish Winter Brutality 2025 uploads, Ian was in a tank of ice water and that was the rifle for everyone to use at this station.

 

[PEMM]

The one Swedish army ordered has short stroke piston, as probably does the Finnish rifle. This one here is direct impingement variant. Maybe this is also to gain experiences, as the Finnish army has just ordered a test batch with piston. Now they can make the comparison with MPK ordering these. Just my speculation.

 

[LimaCharles]

The one Swedish army ordered has short stroke piston, as probably does the Finnish rifle. This one here is direct impingement variant. Maybe this is also to gain experiences, as the Finnish army has just ordered a test batch with piston. Now they can make the comparison with MPK ordering these. Just my speculation.

Direct impingement and gas and tappet both have their pros and cons. I hope whichever they choose that it will serve both nation's well.

 

[LimaCharles]

French marine with the 3rd Marine Infantry Parachute Regiment, uses the modern technique during a live fire exercise with the HK416 F-S.

Handguard is the aftermarket Geissele Automatics 416 free float, non standard issue and was most likely purchased privately as the marine in the background has the standard as issued handguard on his 416.

 

[Kadir93]

Royal Netherlands Air Force airmen armed with Colt Canada C8 5.56mm assault rifles attached with light during joint exercise with Americans.