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Erdogan reiterates Turkey will not leave Idlib.
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Turkey have no ties with ISIS in any form. The major groups under its support are SNA (Syrian National Army) and NLF (National Liberation Front). They are competing for control over Idlib against the Al Qaeda-associated HTS (Hayat Tahrir al-Sham). And of course, the relations between this particular group and the Turkish military are also not good. This is why Turkish troops still stay away from the town of Idlib, because HTS are controlling it. The question is who will flush them out eventually. The Russian-Iranian proxy Cult, or the Turkish-backed groups. Because the Cult is pushing the whole population in Europe in order to cause ethno-religious chaos, I prefer Turkish occupation of this province until Syria have authentic authority and sovereignty, which she don't have right now.
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I thought some kamikaze attack ???
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Any word on what was used to shoot it down?
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Yeah, the word is that it was SA-22 "Greyhound" (Pantsir-S1).
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Apparently rebels entered Saraqib though they seem to not fully control the town still. Continuous battles on the outskirts of the town and in nearby villages.
Meanwhile, SAA pushes further norh capturing more villages in SW of Idlib province. Reported 2 Turkish soldiers are killed bu russian airstrikes and 2 more injured.
SU-34 maneuvering.
Meanwhile, SAA pushes further norh capturing more villages in SW of Idlib province. Reported 2 Turkish soldiers are killed bu russian airstrikes and 2 more injured.
SU-34 maneuvering.
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At around 4:12, is that an ISIS flag patch that guy is wearing on his arm?
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Yeah, it's pretty common among HTS group and generally throughout Idlib, individual members wearing this patches as well as groups. Whatever splinters of ISIS remain in Syria either went underground or went to the assad side or fled to whatever parts that are not under SAA control as far as I can see.
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13-00 local time 27 feb HTS + Turks captured Saraqib (at least part of it) and deblocked two Turkish army checkpoints.
Syrian Arab Army continue offensive in Southern Idlib and liberated most of al-Ghab plain.
Syrian Arab Army continue offensive in Southern Idlib and liberated most of al-Ghab plain.
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I heard some ISIS members is just a moderate jihadist, when they feel ISIS already astray from the true Islam and losing... they change side..
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Yeah, I can agree that there is a lot of switching sides in Syria, considering the amount of chaos there(amount of organizations in Syria, which differ mostly in the interpretation of same thing). However, I would rather say that there is more of taking up situational alliances against a common enemy as the situation changes rather than switching sides. What I mean is that ISIS members remain ISIS members no matter the organization they cooperate with. That is what I presume though.
But regarding the matter of ISIS itself, I don't think that "modarate" is applicable to ISIS. As far as I presume ISIS is an embodiment of uncompromising Islam. Besides, the word "jihadist" acquired quaite a sinister connotation in the recent years despite it's original meaning. Though even the original meaning is that of a struggling for smth, but in my understanding the word "modarate" simply excludes the struggle or fighting. Moreover, ISIS in it's very core is an exclusive organization to everything they consider non-true-islam. This means that anyone who joined ISIS willingly can't be moderate by the definition.
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If you ask me as a muslim, at first I think ISIS when they in early stage of successive carrier.. I thought they will entity to be reckon with.. maybe this is the 'Liberator' of Muslim world against the West in the Middle east... But as time goes by and they start killing prisoners of war, beheaded them, displaced civilian, drove non-muslim civilian from their home when they dont against them, they even killed other Mujahideens that not same page with them... that is the time the have lost their support, their value and pride... even i heard their ranks has been infiltrated by Mossad and other Intelligent unit making them much more mess than ever... That is why those already lost interest in ISIS due to their method or lesser fanatics left the group to joint other groups... even some of ISIS captive being released by SAA and PYD in return their conditions is to fought alongside them against turkey...
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"If you ask me as a muslim, at first I think ISIS when they in early stage of successive carrier.. I thought they will entity to be reckon with.. maybe this is the 'Liberator' of Muslim world against the West in the Middle east..."
- You mean ther early stages of ISIS as an organization, before they proclaimed o caliphate back in 2014? Well then, probably, yes, a lot of muslims must have thought the same at first. That's why they managed to rally so much people from Kavkaz, Africa, Asia.
But I was speaking more about post-caliphate proclamation period which is most mostly characterized like you've described above - " as time goes by and they start killing prisoners of war, beheaded them, displaced civilian, drove non-muslim civilian from their home when they dont against them, they even killed other Mujahideens that not same page with them... that is the time the have lost their support, their value and pride... "
"killed other Mujahideens that not same page with them..." - Yeah, that's what I meant by exclusive organizations. Under most conditions such organizations don't live in the long run.
And now this "lesser fanatics" is more accurate.
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Having no ‘skin in the game’ it’s very hard to track who is who, and then to have isis factions, then groups swapping sides, and ultimately it appears they are fighting over some fields Of fruit or olive trees? And some ruined cities?
show me the winner here?
show me the winner here?
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