Politics Syrian Civil War

[Fred333]

After months of relative deadlock, it seems like the SAA is on the move in Idlib against the remaining Al Qaeda units there. Turkey protests, but has also removed observation points, which seems like a concession to Syrian and Russian pressure.

https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east...2-villages-in-last-rebel-stronghold-1.7231398

Syrian pro-government media say their troops have captured two villages and a nearby hill in the last rebel stronghold in the country's northwest — Idlib province.
The development is part of the latest push by government forces against the enclave that was launched last month. So far, dozens have been killed and more than 150,000 have been displaced.

The pro-government Syrian Central Military Media said government forces captured the villages of Hawash and Jabrieh and Hawash hill on the southern edges of Idlib on Monday.

The area is near the strategic village of Kfar Nabuda that Syrian troops entered last week. Opposition activists reported government airstrikes and shelling of different areas in Idlib.

Much of Idlib is controlled by the al-Qaida-linked Hayat Tahrir al-Sham insurgent group.

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[Dercius]

Just came across some new reports stating that SAA liberated Khan Sheikun on 20th August.
This is one of the towns were staged/alleged (choose your favourite versión) chemical attacks took place a few years back.

 

[Fred333]

Yep, Khan Sheikun is now in SAA hands, as is Morek and the whole pocket south of KS. The Turkish observation post is surrounded now, the Turkish attempt at cockblocking the SAA from taking back Idlib has been unsuccessful so far. It is expected the Syrian will launch an offensive up north along the M5 highway. Turkish convoy meant to relieve Khan Sheikun is stuck in Maaret el Numan after Russian Air Force bombed near it.

 

[Dercius]

About time to get over with this war. Jeeeeez…… eight years of war. Time for Syria to close that chapter.

 

[BravoZulu]

Yup

This day in history, Soviet Susloparov General who signed the surrender document at Rhiems likely suffered a high velocity cerebral hemorrage. Surrender ceremonies were rescheduled for May 8 in Berlin but the actual final document would not be signed until May 9.

Mate, I fail to see what this post has to do with this subject? Can you enlighten me before I delete it?

 

[Fred333]

Looks like the SDF was thrown under the bus by the US. US is retreating from northeast Syrian border zone, Turks are announcing a military operation. Shame, SDF seemed like the least f'd up side in the war...

 

[nemipuka_]

Statement of the autonomous administration of north-eastern Syria:

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Translation:

"Nine years have passed over the conflict and the ongoing war in Syria, which cost the Syrian people hundreds of thousands of martyrs and victims and hundreds of thousands of wounded and millions of displaced refugees in dozens of countries around the world. During the Syrian crisis, the Syrian people faced many conspiracies and deals which aimed at their security, stability and political will. Many countries contributed to the continued suffering of the Syrians and prolonged the Syrian crisis as a result of the conflict between international and regional interests.

In light of all these external challenges, the biggest challenge facing the Syrians was the emergence of terrorist organizations inside Syria, the most dangerous of which is the terrorist organization ISIS, which controlled more than half of the Syrian geography.

Being the most dangerous terrorist phenomenon in the world, this organization had to be eliminated, where the Syrian territory became a base for launching terrorist operations around the world. The people of the region played a big role in fighting terrorism and organizing their forces and energies within the ranks of the Syrian Democratic Forces. The SDF was able to create an environment and incubator that has saved thousands of young people from the threat of terrorism and sectarian organizations, and self-administration has been an important gain for Syrians in north and east Syria.

Since the beginning the Turkish threats continued against the forces who make efforts to fight against the terrorism and clearly targeted the original components of the region, displacing the original population in the areas it has occupied, and instead of the international community taking strict positions, the White House announced once again its approval of Turkey’s occupation of north and east Syria, the withdrawal of its military forces, the abandon of its responsibilities in the war on terror and leaving the region open to dangerous possibilities that will have a serious impact in the fight against terrorism and will have deep impact on the political situation and international efforts to end the crisis and resolve it politically and to further complicate the scene, and push other regional parties to increase their presence on the line of crisis.

We have relied from the beginning in our political project on the popular will of our people and have devoted the values of coexistence and brotherhood among all components, Arabs, Kurds, Syriac, Assyrians, Turkmen and Armenians, and our main and most important bet remains the will of the Syrian people and their components and their determination to live in dignity in a democratic Syria free from any occupation.

We have always stressed that we encourage the dialogue with various parties and this is a strategic position for us, and we have done everything necessary at diplomatic level to resolve the dispute with Turkey, most recently the implementation of the security mechanism agreement, which expressed the true will of the Syrian Democratic Forces to bring peace to the region.

We continue to take all necessary steps at the diplomatic level and activate the channels of dialogue with the various international parties concerned in the Syrian file to stop this aggression and to save our people from the dangers of any military clash, and not to fail in carrying out their responsibilities. We also support the decision of the SDF to defend our borders and our people against any aggression, we clearly affirm that Turkey will not be able to impose its control on ISIS elements and their families in the region.

We, the Syrian Democratic Council reject the Turkish plans to occupy the region and we call on the international community to stand seriously against this dangerous development and affirm that the White House decision in this regard undermines all the war efforts against ISIS, and we call on the United Nations and the Security Council to show more responsibility towards the people of this region and protect them from the Turkish plans which target their existence. We assure that any Turkish attack will lead to a humanitarian catastrophe and a large wave of displacement for the safe people of the region.

We affirm that the Syrian people reject the Turkish occupation and have suffered from Turkish policies and the general regional interventions. We believe that the people of Syria are called today more than ever to carry out their historical responsibilities towards the security of their country and reject the conspiracies targeting their political will."

 

[Musashi]

The sultan hath spoken:

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[Ivan le Fou]

Let us carry out our ethnic cleansing in peace, or we will flood you with migrants!

 

[Mordoror]

Possible blue on green FF with US and french SF hurt by TUAF raid
I am on mobile, can somebody provide a link?

 

[Musashi]

Possible blue on green FF with US and french SF hurt by TUAF raid
I am on mobile, can somebody provide a link?

According to this website:

Interaktywna mapa wojny w Syrii - Wiadomości z Syrii dzisiaj

Mapa walki w Syrii. Najnowsze wiadomości z Syrii na mapie

syria.liveuamap.com

- the Kurds claim that 2 French soldiers were wounded
- an American guy claims that the Turks deliberately targeted U.S. troops, but the Pentagon denies any American losses

 

[Euroamerican]

Newsweek.com is reporting it as an exclusive, but my quick skimming of the article didn't reveal when this happened. The article says that some Turkish forces did reciprocal artillery after receiving inbound, and the US SF were nearby the area of the outbound targets. They hunkered down and then pulled out when the coast was clear.

 

[colin traveller]

..........................

US Special Forces Unit Under Fire from Turkish Shelling in Syria

Turkish officials say the U.S. position was not targeted.

www.military.com

Turkey bombs US Special Forces in Syria, claim it was a mistake

Members of the United States Army Special Forces have been caught up in Turkish bombardments against American-backed Kurdish positions in Syria, signaling an ominous sign of what kind of actions may arise in the future. The Green Berets, according to…

popularmilitary.com

 

[Ivan le Fou]

The Pentagon confirmed US troops got fired at by Turkish artillery.

So:
-either Turkish military incompetence.
-or Turkish knowingly fired on said position.

And considering Turkey has the grid coordinates of the US troops in the region... Turkey is so hell bent in killing Kurds they don't really seem to care about who gets killed

 

[Royal]

Lets see what the "like, really smart" "very stable genius" does now...

There are reports of a casevac helo leaving the area shortly after so that would suggest SF casualties.

Maybe Macron should invoke Article V

 

[Mike1976]

Maybe Macron should invoke Article V

If only that were possible ...

Kicking the Turks out of NATO would be a good start alongside freezing all trade and making the Turkish Lira nosedive into recession by dumping assets. Let's see if they still have the guts to fire on Russian jets then or threaten to ignore deals that they got paid handsomely for.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Turkey is a threat for the region and Europe.

 

[Fred333]

Turks won't care, even if they get kicked out of NATO it will just feed their victim narrative. Whole world is against us...boohooo

 

[Stimpy75]

The Pentagon confirmed US troops got fired at by Turkish artillery.

So:
-either Turkish military incompetence.
-or Turkish knowingly fired on said position.

And considering Turkey has the grid coordinates of the US troops in the region... Turkey is so hell bent in killing Kurds they don't really seem to care about who gets killed

or how about the ypg scumbags fired in the vicinity of the US base in hope not to get hit back?
but who cares? PFF!
civilians get killed in Türkiye, including a 9 month old baby? did you read sth in the western media?or that the turkish city is mostly populated by ethnic Kurds?anyone? anything?did you read, see or hear in your media?

p.s. you can´t get kicked out of Nato!

 

[Ivan le Fou]

p.s. you can´t get kicked out of Nato!

You actually can.