Crime Russian opposition figure hospitalized

[Mardonius]

You mean an information warfare operation, that involved Democrats screaming "election fraud is everywhere" in 2016, but then switch their narrative to "election fraud is literally impossible" in 2020?

I suggest you submerge your finger deep into what you've just wrote, and then take a deep sniff. And tell me if it does or doesn't smell like S**t.
If it doesn't then I'm afraid you might have covid-19

I don't give a cent about what the democrats say, or don't. Save this partisan malarkey for your nitwit colleagues in the Biden thread.

 

[nicememe]

I don't give a cent about what the democrats say, or don't. Keep this partisan malarkey for your nitwit colleagues in the Biden thread.

So you don't give a cent about what different sides do, say or are motivated by, but you somehow think you know what happened or didn't happen?

Then repeat after me: "2016 election was stolen. Proof? No need. Just believe us, because we own the media and the courts. We must be the good and most transparent bunch on the planet."

 

[Mardonius]

So you don't give a cent about what different sides do, say or are motivated by, but you somehow think you know what happened or didn't happen?

I don't pay attention to partisan hyperboles that have the ignoramus as their targetting audiences.

Then repeat after me: "2016 election was stolen. Proof? No need. Just believe us, because we own the media and the courts. We must be the good and most transparent bunch on the planet."

Spare me your strawman attempt. I never said the 2016 election was stolen.

 

[nicememe]

Spare me your strawman attempt. I never said the 2016 election was stolen.

Putin orchestrated a brilliant information warfare operation in 2016 that influenced US presidential election and undermined US politics and society.

Cognitive dissonance.
What else do you want me to spare?

 

[Mardonius]

Cognitive dissonance.
What else do you want me to spare?

English may not be your mother tongue, but that doesn't excuse the indiscriminately use of concepts and definitions you do not master.

Hint: look for the word 'influence'.

 

[Fluff]

Your both failing.....

 

[nicememe]

English may not be your mother tongue, but that doesn't excuse the indiscriminately use of concepts and definitions you do not master.

Hint: look for the word 'influence'.

This is called cherry-picking to back yourself out of an argument you've already lost.

Influencing an election = affecting the results.
Influencing an election as an external actor = making the results of a sovereign country's election non-sovereign.
Preventing the results from being sovereign = stealing the election.

I have a theory I've been developing for many years. People have a tendency to place into their avatars images of people they always wanted to be but will never become.
Ivan Le Fou wants to be a woman.
I want to be a sneaky bastard.
And you want to be great and smart, as also evidenced by the pretentious structure of the 2nd half of your first sentence.
My condolences. ?

 

[Mardonius]

This is called cherry-picking to back yourself out of an argument you've already lost.

Influencing an election = affecting the results.
Influencing an election as an external actor = making the results of a sovereign country's election non-sovereign.
Preventing the results from being sovereign = stealing the election.

Decent example of mental gymnastics. Unfortunately, in the process of trying to correlate influence with an election steal, you make a mockery out of yourself.

Whether an election has effectively been stolen depends entirely on the success and affect of the influence campaign. I never made any claim about its degree of fruitfulness.

I have a theory I've been developing for many years. People have a tendency to place into their avatars images of people they always wanted to be but will never become.
Ivan Le Fou wants to be a woman.
I want to be a sneaky bastard.
And you want to be great and smart, as also evidenced by the pretentious structure of the 2nd half of your first sentence.
My condolences. ?

Hold your avatars peeps...seems like we have the heir apparent of Dr. Freud amongst us.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Ivan Le Fou wants to be a woman.

No I don't.

 

[nicememe]

Decent example of mental gymnastics. Unfortunately, in the process of trying to correlate influence with an election steal, you make a mockery out of yourself.

Whether an election has effectively been stolen depends entirely on the success and affect of the influence campaign. I never made any claim about its degree of fruitfulness.

You never made any claim proving it was influenced either. Then you deflected by saying you're not interested in the inner workings of American politics despite making a claim about an apparent event in American politics. Talk about mental gymnastics. Oh boy.

Hold your avatars peeps...seems like we have the heir apparent of Dr. Freud amongst us.

It's a fascinating phenomenon. You should start paying more attention to it.

 

[Fluff]

One of you is going to quote yourself, and dissect your (own) argument.

The rest of us wont notice.....

 

[BCNTM]

One of you is going to quote yourself, and dissect your (own) argument.

The rest of us wont notice.....

It's like watching two ferrets in a bag

 

[morris]

I would probably feel the same if I had put on his underpants

Don't they have spares in mi6, why Jim Ford didn't pass it on to Nava?

 

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The FSB has published a video of a meeting between FBK * Executive Director Vladimir Ashurkov and former Second Secretary for Political Affairs of the British Embassy in the Russian Federation James Ford, whom the secret service suspects of working for British intelligence. During the conversation, Ashurkov, among other things, asks for help and information about Russian bankers and politicians. According to the FSB officer, the MI6 embassy station continues to actively work with the Russian opposition.

* The Anti-Corruption Foundation (FBK) is included in the register of NPOs performing the functions of a foreign agent, by the decision of the Ministry of Justice of the Russian Federation dated 09.10.2019.

The video is in English.

 

[Yevgeny]

3,5 years is too much. 6-9 months is alright. For that WW2 veteran he insulted.

Keep him in jail until Nord Stream 2 is finished...

Navalny prosecutors seek three-and-a-half-year jail term

Putin spokesman says Moscow will ignore US pleas for opposition leader to be freed in wake of protests

www.theguardian.com

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Love it when US Establishment fossils are lecturing other countries on how to properly run a democracy.

Blinken said frustration with official corruption and growing autocracy had driven popular protests: “I think they [Kremlin officials] need to look inward, not outward … Mr Navalny is giving expression to the voices of millions and millions of Russians. And that’s what this is about.”

I mean, the parallels are countless and so hilarious. How they, yet, can't see the irony is really puzzling.

 

[DTA]

3,5 years is too much. 6-9 months is alright. For that WW2 veteran he insulted.

It's not about insult or fraud, it's old Yves Rocher сase. They probably will change suspended sentence (3 .6 years) to real .
fraud and insult are completely diffrent cases.

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[BCNTM]

3,5 years is too much. 6-9 months is alright. For that WW2 veteran he insulted.

Keep him in jail until Nord Stream 2 is finished...

Navalny prosecutors seek three-and-a-half-year jail term

Putin spokesman says Moscow will ignore US pleas for opposition leader to be freed in wake of protests

www.theguardian.com

by jailing him don't they just add to his cult and that he might actually be telling the truth

Giving validity to his arguments

Have they let the other 5,000 out yet?

 

[primer]

Love it when US Establishment fossils are lecturing other countries on how to properly run a democracy.



I mean, the parallels are countless and so hilarious. How they, yet, can't see the irony is really puzzling.

FBI,.. the new KGB. The press approving stacks of executive orders signed for leftist policies , the national guard surrounding the capitol to save it from violent capitalist demonstrators. The real sad part is the lack of remorse.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

FBI,.. the new KGB

Like a downward spiral from FSB down to KGB.

Who knows, maybe we will have the opportunity to go from KGB to NKVD. Good old Berya style.