Crime Russian opposition figure hospitalized

[morris]

Another video was received from the plane, on which Navalny became ill

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What does he yell?

 

[berkut76]

Another video was received from the plane, on which Navalny became ill

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What does he yell?

This is an absolutely unacceptable garbage. Soundtrack laid on top of video. Absolutely disgusting. Not even going to bother to translate.

 

[BCNTM]

Doctors say he is suffered hypoglycemia (low blood sugar). Most common reason is overdose of insulin. Alcohol intoxication also can cause hypoglycemia in some cases.

you will be telling me next he put some perfume on

 

[morris]

This is an absolutely unacceptable garbage. Soundtrack laid on top of video. Absolutely disgusting. Not even going to bother to translate.

I thought you understand Russian or may be it isn't in Russian.
Have to ask AND

 

[1645556315]

I thought you understand Russian or may be it isn't in Russian.
Have to ask AND

What berkut76 said - someone made joke with original video and added stupid phrase. Something like "i will not die in the wc".

 

[berkut76]

I thought you understand Russian or may be it isn't in Russian.
Have to ask AND

I do, and it is an absolutely obnoxious fake.

 

[morris]

I do, and it is an absolutely obnoxious fake.

OK, let's pretend that you are correct, so what Navalny was crying then?

 

[berkut76]

OK, let's pretend that you are correct, so what Navalny was crying then?

Post some sort of an original video, and I'll tell you.

 

[morris]

Post some sort of an original video, and I'll tell you.

It is original video taken during that flight.

 

[berkut76]

It is original video taken during that flight.

Then he wasn't saying anything. There is a disgusting soundtrack added on top.

 

[morris]

There is a disgusting soundtrack added on top

Haven't seen any proof to that yet, only opinions.

Edit: Anyway.

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[Mike1976]

Who would benefit most from narrative that it's poison?

I would say Navalny and his party are much better position today than yesterday. And for the other side the best option would be that it' "low blood sugar".

Personally I don't trust either at face value. In best case he is flown to neutral ground and we get to know if it was poisoning or not. But even if it was poisoning, we still wouldn't know who did it (I'm sure he has many enemies). So I think west shouldn't respond, with anything else than "let's have a thorough investigation etc.".

What would Putin stand to gain from poisoning an opposition leader that has posed barely any threat to him over the years (at most an embarrassment)? Nothing really. He could have him killed at any time, so why this specific moment when the focus is already on the region and Russia's role in it? Makes no sense from the Kremlin's perspective.

Someone he owes money or favors to is more likely imo if this isn't a political ploy by either his own party or a false flag by some foreign power.

 

[PEMM]

What would Putin stand to gain from poisoning an opposition leader that has posed barely any threat to him over the years (at most an embarrassment)?

Exactly.

 

[tea-drinker]

I'm not a doctor but yelling in pain followed by coma could be heart attack, could be aneurysm?
I mean it could be poison too but ... bit early to jump to conclusions.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Hypoglycemia can cause seizures, if not taken care of.

Now, does he have any pre-existing health conditions or anything?

 

[Hadamar]

Hypoglycemia can cause seizures, if not taken care of.

A now deceased neighbor had these type of seizures. His screaming could be heard early every morning. Before one of his relatives told us what had been really happening (after the guy's death), my housemate and I speculated that there must be someone trapped next door in some kind of Buffalo Bill basement pit, regularly calling for help.

 

[berkut76]

What would Putin stand to gain from poisoning an opposition leader that has posed barely any threat to him over the years (at most an embarrassment)? Nothing really. He could have him killed at any time, so why this specific moment when the focus is already on the region and Russia's role in it? Makes no sense from the Kremlin's perspective.

Someone he owes money or favors to is more likely imo if this isn't a political ploy by either his own party or a false flag by some foreign power.

Or the other way around. Somebody he pissed off. Even with Putin an unopposed authoritarian leader, it's about time to look for successor, and there are various power struggles within FSB to say nothing of the whole "Kremlin" world. I know he is a minor figure, but about two years ago Pyotr Verzilov a PR person for Pussy Riot was poisoned in a similar fashion.

 

[Deleted member 11302]

Berlin hospital says Alexei Navalny was likely poisoned – DW – 08/25/2020

The hospital treating Alexei Navalny in Germany's capital says early tests suggest he was poisoned by a toxin. Angela Merkel urged authorities in Russia to carry out a detailed and transparent investigation.

www.dw.com

The german physicians who examined him say he was very likely poisoned and is being treated for poisoning. Interestingly there has been a kind of media silence the last few days.

Now don't get this the wrong way, I have absolutely nothing against Nawalny, I'm rather annoyed at the German government (as usual) for its grandstanding during the initial days of this entire incident. Nawalny is basically a Russian ethno-nationalist with an anti-corruption streak to his political leanings. If his name were Albrecht or Karl-Heinz he would probably be a member of the AFD in Germany and Merkel wouldn't piss on him even if his whole body were to be on fire.

Make of that what you will.

 

[BCNTM]

Alexei Navalny: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok - Germany

Germany says Alexei Navalny was attacked with a type of nerve agent used against an ex-spy in the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

my prediction earlier in this thread was correct then ..........

 

[Musashi]

Alexei Navalny: Russia opposition leader poisoned with Novichok - Germany

Germany says Alexei Navalny was attacked with a type of nerve agent used against an ex-spy in the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

my prediction earlier in this thread was correct then ..........

I was driving, so you were faster with posting it.