Warfare Russia/Ukraine War
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No tug for the 'aircraft' carrier
The first ship with Ukrainian grain left Odessa. The first cargo ship Razoni loaded with grain under the flag of Sierra Leone left the port of Odessa on Monday. It became the first ship with Ukrainian food that went to sea in accordance with the agreements reached in Istanbul. According to reports, the ship is heading to Lebanon.
The Panzerhaubitze 2000 self-propelled guns delivered earlier from Germany to the Ukrainian army are starting to break down, the German Spiegel news agency reported. Also, the Ukrainian army is already reporting this, as shown in the video. This is due to the fact that the Ukrainian military are firing from these guns literally many times more intensively than it is provided for by the technical regulations of 10 rounds per minute. One of the Ukrainian servicemen from the calculation of the Panzerhaubitze 2000 stated that the howitzer fired up to 300 rounds of ammunition per day. The guns do not withstand such operation, the loading mechanisms and barrels of German self-propelled guns wear out rapidly.
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This is why I don't understand why MetaTwat has been declared a threat to national security in Russia when they're able to push their propaganda free of charge and with their active collaboration.I just got a 29 day posting ban on Facebook, apparently the use of the word "Stupid" in a post with the word "Russia" is classed as hate speech.
my comment was in reference to a picture of a Russian Navy Day poster in Russia which shows a US Aircraft carrier under Russian colors as propaganda! ROFLMAO!!! Glory to Ukraine"
Every day getting closer to driving mule trains across fords. Just like in the good ol' days of the Russian empire.
Developed by the Juice no doubt ?
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Imo the PzH2000 is not designed for full scale war, but for peacekeeping operations and counter insurgency.
100 rounds a day max, a barrel life of 2500-3500?
In a war against a peer opponent not many pieces will survive that long. You need systems that put out as much firepower as possible in the shortest amount of time before statistics say they will have likely been destroyed.
The German G43 carbine is heavily overgassed and wears out quickly because of it. This wasn't seen as a problem to the Germans because the average life expectancy on the eastern front was something like 21 days. Keep the gun running and put out as much fire during that time before the inevitable happens or if the soldier is lucky enough to survive toss it and get a replacement.
The PzH2000 is a luxury toy not designed for a full scale war and the problem arises when countries have done away with all other systems and solely rely on it for their ground-based fire support because they don't see the problem. After all the last actual war they fought ended in 1945 or 1953, these militaries operate solely on theory based doctrines. It's the artillery equivalent of a sniper rifle, not a machine gun.
100 rounds a day max, a barrel life of 2500-3500?
In a war against a peer opponent not many pieces will survive that long. You need systems that put out as much firepower as possible in the shortest amount of time before statistics say they will have likely been destroyed.
The German G43 carbine is heavily overgassed and wears out quickly because of it. This wasn't seen as a problem to the Germans because the average life expectancy on the eastern front was something like 21 days. Keep the gun running and put out as much fire during that time before the inevitable happens or if the soldier is lucky enough to survive toss it and get a replacement.
The PzH2000 is a luxury toy not designed for a full scale war and the problem arises when countries have done away with all other systems and solely rely on it for their ground-based fire support because they don't see the problem. After all the last actual war they fought ended in 1945 or 1953, these militaries operate solely on theory based doctrines. It's the artillery equivalent of a sniper rifle, not a machine gun.
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Interesting, and potentially disturbing observation.
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I am pretty sure we cannot thank enough, in a very cynical way, this war for putting to the test doctrines, equipment, and supply problematics.
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I'm assuming this is HMS Blyth and HMS Ramsey which were already due to go to the Ukrainian Navy before the invasion - https://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/news-and-latest-activity/news/2021/august/04/20210804-ramsey-blyth
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Is that why the Germans are stopping the Leopards from being sent to the Ukrainian front? War machines not designed for war?
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Those would be Leopard 1s. They were designed with a defensive role in mind, that they would be dug in to deal with Soviet tanks that were designed to assault en-masse. Using them in an offensive capacity would be a huge mistake, especially on a modern battlefield. Their armor wasn't designed for taking on enemy armor head-on and the 105mm gun can penetrate the rear, the side is a gamble, and the front of Russian tanks is pretty much a no-go. It reminds me a lot of the new light tank concept that the US army is working on which also isn't intended to take on enemy tanks.
In essence it's a Panzer IV ausf. G taking on T-34-85 and IS-2 tanks. Can it work, yes. Do you want to stake your life on it, hell no.
I don't see much point in transferring the Leo 1.
Edit: Now that I think of it the one use would be if Germans took up their old trade of converting legacy tanks into tank destroyers. Mount a 120mm armed pillbox on it and it's good to go for defensive use ?
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You are day late and a dollar short as usual, its still not going to stop the Orc's from getting a whole world of hurt.
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