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Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.

The greatest irony is that opposition leaders are largely former generals hating on how the war is conducted.

These morons failed to make Israel safer over the last two decades by failing to achieve any substantial operational results while we now know that the enemy's communications were completely compromised all that time. Absolute clowns.
Has Bibi made Israel safer by failing to spot the preparations for October 7th attack? And is it safer now with nearly daily shelling by allies of Hamas?
F these Hamas Nazi Symphs... I hope that suspect falls down really hard a couple times in custody.
It's probably what his defense lawyer also hopes for, just so he can avoid death penalty by claiming police brutality after he was already apprehended.
 
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Using a civilian airport to launch attacks from. Why am I not reading about this in the news?

Ah right, Jews were the target so there can be no crime.
 
And is it safer now with nearly daily shelling by allies of Hamas?
Go ask your buddy Obummer who funded Iran's ballistic missile and drone programs with billions of dollars and the commies of the EU who keep sending billions to jihadists.
 
Go ask your buddy Obummer who funded Iran's ballistic missile and drone programs with billions of dollars and the commies of the EU who keep sending billions to jihadists.
You do realize that Trump wants to sign a deal with Iran, right?
 
Sure it will.

Repeating myself:

"A deal that would insure peace in the region."

Key word being: would.

It is not guaranteed it will. Hence the use of "would", a conditional.

The aim is to hopefully, if the deal is honored and not hijacked, achieve such a results.

Is it guaranteed? As I said, no. Is it likely to happen? I would say no. This is Iran, and Iran has a long established past.

However, it has to be tried, that's how foreign relations work.

You cannot know it you don't try.


Now you are free to have a banter about it with your friends in the "useful idiots" thread. That's what it is been created for, isn't it?
 
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Lebanon joining is something I can, to some extent, imagine.
With the plague of Hamas and Hezbollah removed, Lebanon could have more liberty in making the right decisions for its future.

Syria on the other hand... though it is tempting, Jolani is too much of a wild card to be trusted. Especially with how uncertain his ties with HTS and his control over it are.
 
Lebanon joining is something I can, to some extent, imagine.
With the plague of Hamas and Hezbollah removed, Lebanon could have more liberty in making the right decisions for its future.

Syria on the other hand... though it is tempting, Jolani is too much of a wild card to be trusted. Especially with how uncertain his ties with HTS and his control over it are.
If Iran and USA do a deal, which includes no Iranian funding for hezbollah, etc. then I can see trump getting some smaller countries on board, then a deal gets done on Gaza, which I would imagine includes a ‘voluntary and temporary’ transfer to Libya, Jordan etc.

Saudi and USA money gets thrown at the people who relocate, only basic rations sent into Gaza, with constant Israeli ground movements, so no-one can get comfortable.

So no where for hamas to hide, if they fight less civilian casualties, and no recruitment pool, or at least no direct access back to Gaza for them.

Syria gets an invite on trade, meaning oil.

Pretty neat if it comes off.
 
If Iran and USA do a deal, which includes no Iranian funding for hezbollah, etc. then I can see trump getting some smaller countries on board, then a deal gets done on Gaza, which I would imagine includes a ‘voluntary and temporary’ transfer to Libya, Jordan etc.

Saudi and USA money gets thrown at the people who relocate, only basic rations sent into Gaza, with constant Israeli ground movements, so no-one can get comfortable.

So no where for hamas to hide, if they fight less civilian casualties, and no recruitment pool, or at least no direct access back to Gaza for them.

Syria gets an invite on trade, meaning oil.

Pretty neat if it comes off.

That's a lot of parts, but if they manage to pull it off: yeah, that would be awesome.

The main Arab countries in the region seems to be aligned and in general agreement, the Abraham Accord isn't dead and it seems the various actors are willing to see it thrive.

Now, there is the usual wild card: Turkey, which does not mind having the region engulfed in a perpetual state of religious civil war.
Comes also Syria with his new leader, or "leader". What is Jolani, in reality? Is he genuine? Is he putting on an act? What are his plans regarding HTS, if he has any? How and when will he plan on doing anything about it, if he actually intends to?
Yemen is another one. Will something be done to permanently disarm the rebels? If so, will it be an Western effort (as it has been in the past), a local/regional effort supervised by Western countries? Or an initiative exclusively regional (Arabs dealing with Arabs)?
 
That's a lot of parts, but if they manage to pull it off: yeah, that would be awesome.

The main Arab countries in the region seems to be aligned and in general agreement, the Abraham Accord isn't dead and it seems the various actors are willing to see it thrive.

Now, there is the usual wild card: Turkey, which does not mind having the region engulfed in a perpetual state of religious civil war.
Comes also Syria with his new leader, or "leader". What is Jolani, in reality? Is he genuine? Is he putting on an act? What are his plans regarding HTS, if he has any? How and when will he plan on doing anything about it, if he actually intends to?
Yemen is another one. Will something be done to permanently disarm the rebels? If so, will it be an Western effort (as it has been in the past), a local/regional effort supervised by Western countries? Or an initiative exclusively regional (Arabs dealing with Arabs)?
With Iran cut off from Yemen,by a deal with Trump, they should be much less trouble at least for ships. Trump will buy whatever they sell, and give them 200 ford pickups if they behave.

Syria, has had what 20 years of war? This guy grew up in it, not many external sponsors with $$ at the moment, so again, Trump will offer some $$, and expect EU to do the same, cheaper than more refugees, even Turkey wants them to go home.

Hopefully the moderate Arab countries are offering more than Iran can offer.

Trumps EVIL axis of trade and kumbaya might actually be happening........
 
Syria, has had what 20 years of war? This guy grew up in it, not many external sponsors with $$ at the moment, so again, Trump will offer some $$, and expect EU to do the same, cheaper than more refugees, even Turkey wants them to go home.

That's the problem I have with Jolani... I can't find out who he is and what game he is playing.

If anything, the West, the EU and the US have shown, in excruciatingly detailed lengths exactly how to take advantage of their generosity and benevolence.

So, either everything is fine, or Trump saw through their bluff and told them he had the means to lock their balls in a box.
 
How much authority Jokani really has is the question. During the civil war the terrorist groups had a common enemy, when that enemy is taken off the board the warring parties often start fighting amongst themselves. Then there's external pressure from Turkey, Israel etc.
 
How much authority Jokani really has is the question. During the civil war the terrorist groups had a common enemy, when that enemy is taken off the board the warring parties often start fighting amongst themselves. Then there's external pressure from Turkey, Israel etc.

That's something I have been working on for some time.

Is he genuine in his intention and does he have control over HTS; the various clashes being caused by dissenting anecdotal and fringe faction from HTS or groups unrelated with HTS by passing themselves as just to create confusion.

Is he genuine but with little control over HTS. As you said, the common enemy is gone, now the coalition is breaking apart. So is it what is taking place and Jolani is nothing but a "King with no Kingdom"? Though, if the schism was that widely spread, we would see turmoil all over the country and on a much greater scale. But it can also be a slow scission that will gradually pick up speed.

Is his appearance of "reformed jihadist" a trick and is Jolani simply playing pretend and deceiving us? For his own gain or his patrons?


First case would lead to a short period of unrest, long enough for the unruly to be dealt with and then some in order to repair and gain the trust of the various minorities brutalized.

Second case, another civil war would end up occurring. Each country backing their champions and favorite groups.

Third would be like having Iraq under ISIL right at our door step.


And, since "I can't help but insert my narrative into everything", strangely enough I doubt the European leaders would be in a profound state of shock.
Just like Merkel, and her comrades in other countries, said and behaved last time: we will manage.

Somehow Islamic terrorist seem to be the only bad guys it is okay to appease.
 
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