Warfare HAMAS attack on Israel, Oct 2023 & Iran’s Proxies.

[Ivan le Fou]

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IDF_Tanker, any veracity to this?

It somehow reminds me of the strike on these humanitarian workers.

 

[m208]

It's all good and fine... but this particular message was in Hebrew, specifically addressed to the Israeli public. Other than pathological level of delusion, I don't have any explanation for this.

psychological/emotional/mental warefare plays a huge role when youre trying to mess up with you enemy's mental

 

[OldGuy]

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Photo of a man that has a lot of sleepless nights, and days. Can you imagine having a name like SALAMI. Only the name schlong could be more amusing. I thought Muslims couldn't stand Pork but yet this guy is named after a Pork Sausage.

 

[m208]

While acknowledging that it's all classified information with no precise date or time, indications suggest that Israel is ready to retaliate against Iran within the next 12 hours. The extent of the retaliation remains the only uncertainty.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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[OldGuy]

While acknowledging that it's all classified information with no precise date or time, indications suggest that Israel is ready to retaliate against Iran within the next 12 hours. The extent of the retaliation remains the only uncertainty.

F-35s will be the tool of choice for precise target hits and likely to do lots of damage with their standoff capability and stealth. I hope they hit the Nuke building sites that are underground. They have changed locations many times but Israel has people on the inside so they know where they are and how much time is left to do something. The Mideastern countries should have all come together and already destroyed that regime but every one of those nations are scared to death of Iran. Saudi's have the best equipped Military in the region and even they are hesitant to engage them. I find it incredible that there so many Jew hating morons in America. The forums all over youtube are full of those that cry about using our tax dollars to help Israel. It's as if America is going back into 1939 and wearing brown suits today instead of the Nazis .. Their age starts about 30 and down but shows how ignorant they are and how our education system is so wrongly infiltrated with pure radical teachers who were no more than a bunch of pot heads early in life. I know for a fact in the mid 70s there was a mass turn over of teachers because of retirements all over America. The new ones were all the protestors and draft dodgers and yes most of them were pot heads. They were the people that destroyed the education system in America. As the phase says in Sociology "Man is a product of his own culture". A bit scary but then it is certain no one lives forever and a pure cleansing of society comes often in our world. Evil may exist for a time but has always been rubbed out and I feel sure this bunch of maniacs in Iran will go the same route. They can't co exist with normal people.

 

[IDF_TANKER]

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IDF_Tanker, any veracity to this?

It somehow reminds me of the strike on these humanitarian workers.

Mate, it's not like I have some special access to the inner workings of the Israel intelligence community... If true, I still wouldn't compare it to the humanitarian workers. So Israel underestimated the level of the Iranian butthurt, so f***ing what..? Given the fact, that we've been basically at war for the last forty years or so, it's all good as far I'm personally concerned.
In general, after October 7th, it will take a lot to get me excited about anything anymore. Like I was actually fully prepared to see some changes in the TA skyline before the recent attack... alas disappointment. Nobody over here gives a F*** anymore... F*** them, their embassies and everything else... all the red lines were erased half a year ago - by them...

 

[m208]

F-35s will be the tool of choice for precise target hits and likely to do lots of damage with their standoff capability and stealth. I hope they hit the Nuke building sites that are underground. They have changed locations many times but Israel has people on the inside so they know where they are and how much time is left to do something. The Mideastern countries should have all come together and already destroyed that regime but every one of those nations are scared to death of Iran. Saudi's have the best equipped Military in the region and even they are hesitant to engage them. I find it incredible that there so many Jew hating morons in America. The forums all over youtube are full of those that cry about using our tax dollars to help Israel. It's as if America is going back into 1939 and wearing brown suits today instead of the Nazis .. Their age starts about 30 and down but shows how ignorant they are and how our education system is so wrongly infiltrated with pure radical teachers who were no more than a bunch of pot heads early in life. I know for a fact in the mid 70s there was a mass turn over of teachers because of retirements all over America. The new ones were all the protestors and draft dodgers and yes most of them were pot heads. They were the people that destroyed the education system in America. As the phase says in Sociology "Man is a product of his own culture". A bit scary but then it is certain no one lives forever and a pure cleansing of society comes often in our world. Evil may exist for a time but has always been rubbed out and I feel sure this bunch of maniacs in Iran will go the same route. They can't co exist with normal people.

I am confident that Israel will retaliate, but I doubt they would risk attacking Iran's nuclear sites. Those sites should have been destroyed back in 2006 during the Israel-Lebanon war. Now, Israel has too many allies scattered throughout the region, and a full-fledged attack would result in widespread chaos, affecting American bases and allies like the UAE and KSA. Hezbollah would likely launch hundreds to thousands of missiles daily for the first few weeks. If Israel were to attack Iran nuclear sites , it would likely resort to extreme measures, potentially including nuclear strikes, followed by extensive airstrikes on both Iran and Lebanon "although im part lebanese ,seeing my country being destroyed would definitley break my heart,but a necessary evil thats needs to be done " using unprecedentedly powerful ordnance.

In my opinion, Israel may choose one of two courses of action:

1) Target one of Iran's main marine facilities, particularly focusing on the large ship Iranians refer to as an aircraft carrier.

2) Strike a remote area in Iran with limited strategic significance.

Nevertheless, Israel will likely not find peace as long as Iran remains a presence in the region, a realization that Benjamin Netanyahu and his team likely acknowledge.

Regarding our generation, I've been expressing for the past 20 years (I'm 42) that alcohol, weed, and drugs have had a destructive impact on our society. When observing the widespread complaints about allocating resources to confront threats like Russia's aggression against Ukraine, it becomes apparent that society is facing significant challenges. Many individuals seem fixated on the misuse of tax dollars, yet even if every citizen who has voiced such complaints were given a million dollars, it's likely they would squander it on vices like weed, alcohol, and other frivolous expenses.

There's a quote/proverb that resonates with me: "Strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men. Weak men create tough times." It serves as a reminder of the cyclical nature of history and societal evolution.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Mate, it's not like I have some special access to the inner workings of the Israel intelligence community... If true, I still wouldn't compare it to the humanitarian workers. So Israel underestimated the level of the Iranian butthurt, so f***ing what..? Given the fact, that we've been basically at war for the last forty years or so, it's all good as far I'm personally concerned.
In general, after October 7th, it will take a lot to get me excited about anything anymore. Like I was actually fully prepared to see some changes in the TA skyline before the recent attack... alas disappointment. Nobody over here gives a F*** anymore... F*** them, their embassies and everything else... all the red lines were erased half a year ago - by them...

Gotcha.

I was just wondering if there were discussions in Israel regarding the way things are being handled, that's all.
Foreign media don't necessarily report everything, and when they do the accuracy of what is being reported has to be scrutinized to spot biases. So, I thought, perhaps, more things were being discussed among Israelis.

I have had the impression that the Israeli forces had been given, not necessarily free rein but, some kind of relative freedom in the way they carry out their operations. Resulting with actions being carried out without coordination with other branches.
That's just a supposition, obviously, but we have now at least two instances of branches not communicating with one another. Or, at least, incidents caused by a possible lack of communication.

 

[Fluff]

I am confident that Israel will retaliate, but I doubt they would risk attacking Iran's nuclear sites. Those sites should have been destroyed back in 2006 during the Israel-Lebanon war. Now, Israel has too many allies scattered throughout the region, and a full-fledged attack would result in widespread chaos, affecting American bases and allies like the UAE and KSA. Hezbollah would likely launch hundreds to thousands of missiles daily for the first few weeks. If Israel were to attack Iran nuclear sites , it would likely resort to extreme measures, potentially including nuclear strikes, followed by extensive airstrikes on both Iran and Lebanon "although im part lebanese ,seeing my country being destroyed would definitley break my heart,but a necessary evil thats needs to be done " using unprecedentedly powerful ordnance.

In my opinion, Israel may choose one of two courses of action:

1) Target one of Iran's main marine facilities, particularly focusing on the large ship Iranians refer to as an aircraft carrier.

2) Strike a remote area in Iran with limited strategic significance.

Nevertheless, Israel will likely not find peace as long as Iran remains a presence in the region, a realization that Benjamin Netanyahu and his team likely acknowledge.

Regarding our generation, I've been expressing for the past 20 years (I'm 42) that alcohol, weed, and drugs have had a destructive impact on our society. When observing the widespread complaints about allocating resources to confront threats like Russia's aggression against Ukraine, it becomes apparent that society is facing significant challenges. Many individuals seem fixated on the misuse of tax dollars, yet even if every citizen who has voiced such complaints were given a million dollars, it's likely they would squander it on vices like weed, alcohol, and other frivolous expenses.

There's a quote/proverb that resonates with me: "Strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men. Weak men create tough times." It serves as a reminder of the cyclical nature of history and societal evolution.

I would bet on an attack on the nuke factories, simply because Israel hates them so much. Israel has a free pass, it would be a hard one to pass up on it.

But total destruction of something important - which is what Iran tried for and failed - such as the naval ships, especially the fleets of little attack craft, could be attractive - maybe even wanted by USA.

 

[m208]

I would bet on an attack on the nuke factories, simply because Israel hates them so much. Israel has a free pass, it would be a hard one to pass up on it.

But total destruction of something important - which is what Iran tried for and failed - such as the naval ships, especially the fleets of little attack craft, could be attractive - maybe even wanted by USA.

i doubt man ... dont get me wrong...i really hope and wish israel do so, i mean all of us are backing israel on this "atleast spiritually " cause israel is the only country strong enough to destroy iran.

Anyways , lets wait and see

 

[Mike1976]

I would bet on an attack on the nuke factories, simply because Israel hates them so much. Israel has a free pass, it would be a hard one to pass up on it.

But total destruction of something important - which is what Iran tried for and failed - such as the naval ships, especially the fleets of little attack craft, could be attractive - maybe even wanted by USA.

The latter are easily replaced though.

 

[OldGuy]

I am confident that Israel will retaliate, but I doubt they would risk attacking Iran's nuclear sites. Those sites should have been destroyed back in 2006 during the Israel-Lebanon war. Now, Israel has too many allies scattered throughout the region, and a full-fledged attack would result in widespread chaos, affecting American bases and allies like the UAE and KSA. Hezbollah would likely launch hundreds to thousands of missiles daily for the first few weeks. If Israel were to attack Iran nuclear sites , it would likely resort to extreme measures, potentially including nuclear strikes, followed by extensive airstrikes on both Iran and Lebanon "although im part lebanese ,seeing my country being destroyed would definitley break my heart,but a necessary evil thats needs to be done " using unprecedentedly powerful ordnance.

In my opinion, Israel may choose one of two courses of action:

1) Target one of Iran's main marine facilities, particularly focusing on the large ship Iranians refer to as an aircraft carrier.

2) Strike a remote area in Iran with limited strategic significance.

Nevertheless, Israel will likely not find peace as long as Iran remains a presence in the region, a realization that Benjamin Netanyahu and his team likely acknowledge.

Regarding our generation, I've been expressing for the past 20 years (I'm 42) that alcohol, weed, and drugs have had a destructive impact on our society. When observing the widespread complaints about allocating resources to confront threats like Russia's aggression against Ukraine, it becomes apparent that society is facing significant challenges. Many individuals seem fixated on the misuse of tax dollars, yet even if every citizen who has voiced such complaints were given a million dollars, it's likely they would squander it on vices like weed, alcohol, and other frivolous expenses.

There's a quote/proverb that resonates with me: "Strong men create easy times. Easy times create weak men. Weak men create tough times." It serves as a reminder of the cyclical nature of history and societal evolution.

But.. they have no functional nuclear weapons and the building of one is what I want destroyed. They are very near having everything needed to build nuclear weapons. That is Israels most important target. If they wait until Iran has weapons who knows what happens next.

 

[IDF_TANKER]

Gotcha.

I was just wondering if there were discussions in Israel regarding the way things are being handled, that's all.
Foreign media don't necessarily report everything, and when they do the accuracy of what is being reported has to be scrutinized to spot biases. So, I thought, perhaps, more things were being discussed among Israelis.

I have had the impression that the Israeli forces had been given, not necessarily free rein but, some kind of relative freedom in the way they carry out their operations. Resulting with actions being carried out without coordination with other branches.
That's just a supposition, obviously, but we have now at least two instances of branches not communicating with one another. Or, at least, incidents caused by a possible lack of communication.

Well there is an element of free rein, but there is a traditional rivalry between Mossad and Military Intelligence, some of it by design (plurality of perspectives etc)... if you read Ronen Bergman books, the fuckups of this sort are a running theme...

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Israel pulled it once with Operation opera against Iraq.

 

[Connaught Ranger]

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[Ivan le Fou]

Well there is an element of free rein, but there is a traditional rivalry between Mossad and Military Intelligence, some of it by design (plurality of perspectives etc)... if you read Ronen Bergman books, the fuckups of this sort are a running theme...

Ah yes, yes. True, thank you for reminding me.

I assumed they had put these petty squabbles to rest in that time of crisis.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

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[downsizer]

A couple of UK Patriot and THAAD/Arrow batteries wouldn't be a bad thing for you right now. Sea Viper really isn't going to cut it (unless you created some kind of land based version which would be pretty cool).

SAMP/T.......uses aster 30, same as sea viper.

 

[Fluff]

But.. they have no functional nuclear weapons and the building of one is what I want destroyed. They are very near having everything needed to build nuclear weapons. That is Israels most important target. If they wait until Iran has weapons who knows what happens next.

Can you imagine the noise today, if Iran had obliterated the Israeli air base?

Iran clearly prepared 2 'narratives' and we see the poor one, that it was all a trial and wasted lots of defence missiles etc.

Israel couldnt go for the nuke sites, directly, because to do so would cause some sort of war. Now Iran has by most definitions started a war, so Israel can go for what it wants. A strike on the nukes, plus the destruction of air defence systems needed to allow this, would be a good firm slap to Iran.

Just a reminder, several times Israel has been attacked by 'all' the arab states, and still came out on top.