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[BCNTM]

No need to go as far as Poland when talking « shithole countries » (or cities in this instance):

that looks like last time I went to Londistan - only thing is 'Snowy' was brown as well..........

 

[Jake84]

that looks like last time I went to Londistan - only thing is 'Snowy' was brown as well..........

You know, every once in a while I’m unfortunate enough to have to visit North Paris and it’s right there with London...

 

[Musashi]

We're talking EU nationals here. I'd be careful with that term. Many Britons believe you hail from a "shithole country".

1. I mean there are hundreds of thousands of immigrants from #shitholeCountries who got EU passports, coming to third-party EU countries and used it as a way for settling in the UK. Somalis with Dutch and Swedish passports will be a good example.
2. If some people don't have a sufficient knowledge about Poland, I cannot help them.
- we have been branded as a developed country recently
- 50% of Polish 25-year-olds have a university degree
- Polish people are far more likely to progress into a Master's degree than people in 95% of the EU countries
- we have one of the lowest unemployment rates in the EU
- we have overtaken Portugal and Greece in terms of GDP per capita (PPP).
- unlike the vast majority of EU countries, if not all of them, Poland hasn't had any economic crisis since 1989. The average GDP growth has been 4% a year
- AFAIK Poland issues more work visas than any EU country does every year.
- many more factors that I'm too lazy to mention

Was Poland a #shitholeCountry when I moved to the UK in 2007? Hell, yes.
However, it's not any more.

 

[muck]

Labour's amendments have been defeated. The election is on.

 

[Musashi]

@muck
What does it look more like a shithole?
Warsaw or Berlin?

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This video was not produced in Poland.

Or maybe this one? Could you compare this with the tube in London? If you try, it means you haven't visited the tube yet lol:

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To make it short, Poland is FAR cleaner and less Third Worldish than West European countries.

 

[muck]

Yet still Nigel Farage and his minions rant about Poles and Romanians more than they do about "British Asians". And that's all I pointed you to.

It begs the question why you've left Poland if it's so preferrable to Western Europe, by the way.

 

[Fluff]

Lebensraum...

I refer to a previous post on German wisdom.

Hint here

 

[Fluff]

Labour's amendments have been defeated. The election is on.

Even labour mp’s have got cabin fever.

 

[Musashi]

Yet still Nigel Farage and his minions rant about Poles and Romanians more than they do about "British Asians". And that's all I pointed you to.

Because you don't risk being branded as a racist picking on white immigrants. Furthermore, British Asians have far more MPs of their own origin, accumulated far more wealth and have been harboured in the UK for much longer. Apart from that, it may have something to do with being part of the British Commonwealth.

It begs the question why you've left Poland if it's so preferrable to Western Europe, by the way.

I have already answered your question. Poland in 2019 is totally different than Poland in 2007 or the 90s. It should be enough when I tell you that both Belarus and Ukraine were richer than Poland at the beginning of the 90s.
I have more than just a couple of class mates who did an IT BSc degree with me in 2006 and they earn more money in Poland than I do in the UK right now.
I didn't want to wait for 12 years to improve my lifestyle. Some people are ready for that, while some are not. I personally know a few Spanish and Italian PhDs who moved from al-Londonistan to Warsaw or Wroclaw and they say they feel much better in Poland.

 

[Fluff]

I believe the general view is that having conquered many countries, the people hold historic ties, and many people here now came legally and indeed were invited, to do the menial jobs the British white population didn’t want to do. Really same again with polish. If ( and I see some risk it won’t happen) we do leave, who will come then.

Tony Blair basically let anyone in, no questions asked, this was typical across many countries, and leaves some risks ongoing. Nigel works on this point. Cameron messed up, then messed up the vote, then quite.

People Having spoken, we still really have much of the establishment trying to kick it down the road. It will be interesting how the parties align for the election,, as usual Corbyn will sit on fence.

 

[BCNTM]

@muck
What does it look more like a shithole?
Warsaw or Berlin?

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This video was not produced in Poland.

Or maybe this one? Could you compare this with the tube in London? If you try, it means you haven't visited the tube yet lol:

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To make it short, Poland is FAR cleaner and less Third Worldish than West European countries.

religion of Peace never came to visit?

 

[Musashi]

religion of Peace never came to visit?

Occasionally it does, however, Poland is not a peaceful country for religion of peace. That's why peace tends to be spread elsewhere after a Polish visa is acquired:

2017 Stockholm truck attack - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[BCNTM]

Even labour mp’s have got cabin fever.

Dianne Abbott has told them they will win by a 1,000 seats ??

 

[Fluff]

Dianne Abbott has told them they will win by a 1,000 seats ??

So that’s a majority of 20 Diane....

 

[TIZER]

it takes a lot to be embarrassed by the SNP

so we get a 'peoples vote' but not as a referendum rerun but as a general election

it worked that's what counts we might now have a route out of this impasse

 

[primer]

The commonwealth has changed, republican voter numbers increasing. Nearly all are independant. Thinking that commonwealth countries should have limitless visa's into UK is back in the day thinking. While in the EU commonwealth version and everyone has a limitless visa of course there is an obvious difference as Fargage and minions astutely observe. Its not about skin colour.

 

[BCNTM]

Any link?
Anyway, it makes a perfect sense for them, as young people are more likely to vote for them and so do immigrants, especially the ones from #shitholeCountries.
However...

Haven't the Scots tried giving their 16-year-olds voting rights

Ian Blackford's call for EU nationals to vote slapped down by Tory MP

SNP WESTMINSTER Leader Ian Blackford claimed it is an “absolute disgrace” that EU nationals “do not have the right” to vote in UK general elections, during a Commons debate on Tuesday afternoon.

www.express.co.uk

Scots want to give EU citizens a vote - are they that desperate - build a wall

 

[TIZER]

Ian Blackford's call for EU nationals to vote slapped down by Tory MP

SNP WESTMINSTER Leader Ian Blackford claimed it is an “absolute disgrace” that EU nationals “do not have the right” to vote in UK general elections, during a Commons debate on Tuesday afternoon.

www.express.co.uk

Scots want to give EU citizens a vote - are they that desperate - build a wall

we already do as well as 16 & 17 year olds ... Wales is the same

 

[Jake84]

we already do as well as 16 & 17 year olds ... Wales is the same

Yeah them Scots and Welsh are easy scapegoats for the Brits

Care to add the paddies mates to the mix?

 

[muck]

Read a couple of articles about Bercow's resignation. Wow. The vitriol is strong. The comment section of the Daily Mail is ripe with death threats. Actual death threats.

I get it, you think he's a closet remainer. Alright. But to find fault with the manner in which he speaks to the parliament?

Brexit is a marvellous thing. It made people who usually miss no chance to rant against "the elites" get angry at Bercow for hurting the feelings of parliamentarians who couldn't behave themselves.