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[BCNTM]

I'm Not talking about people who have diplomatic immunity.

can we have some examples of where a Brit has done this in America and then fled the country?

 

[Connaught Ranger]

"The US diplomat's wife who was involved in a crash that killed Harry Dunn told him she would get help after the collision - before waving down another car to assist so she could comfort her children, Sky News has learnt."


https://news.sky.com/story/us-diplo...crash-before-comforting-her-children-11835952

 

[digrar]

British prosecutors charge wife of American diplomat involved in accident killing teenager

The United Kingdom charges the wife of a US diplomat with causing death by dangerous driving and will seek her extradition over a car crash in which a teenager died.

www.abc.net.au

British prosecutors charge Anne Sacoolas over death of teenager Harry Dunn, will seek her extradition
Posted about 5 hours ago

British prosecutors have charged the wife of a US diplomat with causing death by dangerous driving and will seek her extradition over a car crash in which a teenager died.

Key points:

• Harry Dunn died after a collision between his motorcycle and a car driven by Anne Sacoolas
• She cooperated with police after the crash, but later claimed diplomatic immunity and left the United Kingdom
• The British Government has not yet made a formal request to extradite Ms Sacoolas

Harry Dunn, 19, died after his motorcycle collided with a car driven by Anne Sacoolas in August near RAF Croughton, an air force base in Northamptonshire in central England which is used by the US military.

Ms Sacoolas was given diplomatic immunity and left Britain shortly after the accident, setting off a dispute between London and Washington over whether she should return to face investigation.

"The Director of Public Prosecutions has met with Harry Dunn's family to explain the basis of the decision we have made following a thorough review of the evidence available," the United Kingdom's Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) said in a statement.


But it said it was up to the Home Office to decide whether to seek Ms Sacoolas's extradition formally through diplomatic channels.

Dunn's mother, Charlotte Charles, broke down in tears after finding out about the charges, saying it meant she had kept a promise to her son to get him justice.

"We had no idea it was going to be this hard and it would take this long, but we really do feel it is a huge step towards that promise to Harry," she told reporters.

British Foreign Minister Dominic Raab welcomed the charging decision, adding in a statement: "I hope that Anne Sacoolas will now realise the right thing to do is to come back to the UK and cooperate with the criminal justice process."

In a statement, the State Department expressed "deepest sympathies" over Dunn's death, but said the decision to charge Ms Sacoolas was not "a helpful development".

"We are disappointed by [the] announcement and fear that it will not bring a resolution closer," a State Department spokesperson said.

"The United States has been clear that, at the time the accident occurred, and for the duration of her stay in the UK, the driver in this case had status that conferred diplomatic immunities."

Sacoolas refuses to return to UK, lawyer says

In a statement, Ms Sacoolas's US lawyer Amy Jeffress said her client would "not return voluntarily to the United Kingdom to face a potential jail sentence for what was a terrible but unintentional accident".

Dunn's case gained international prominence when his parents met US President Donald Trump at the White House in October, an occasion he described as "beautiful" but "sad".

Mr Trump hoped to persuade them to meet Ms Sacoolas, who was in the building at the same time, but they declined.

Radd Sieger, a spokesperson for the family, said that US national security adviser Robert O'Brien had "quite emphatically" said that Ms Sacoolas would not be "coming back" during the meeting.

The Dunn family has continued to press Ms Sacoolas to return to Britain to face police questioning about the crash.

In December, she was approached by a journalist from British broadcaster ITV in the US but refused to answer questions about whether or not she would return to the UK.

She initially cooperated with local police after the crash, but later claimed diplomatic immunity.

However, British legal counsel acting for the Dunn family is challenging whether Ms Sacoolas held the diplomatic immunity that allowed her to leave the UK in the first place.



Under the 1961 Vienna Convention, diplomats and their families are immune from persecution but that immunity can be waived by the state that has sent them.

But British prosecutors argue that immunity does not apply to dependents of consular officials based outside of London.

The maximum jail sentence in Britain for causing death by dangerous driving is 14 years.

The White House and the US Department of Justice did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

 

[Gaz]

Anne Sacoolas: International arrest warrant issued for US official's wife wanted over death of Harry Dunn

"The 42-year-old can now be arrested if she leaves America

The American woman accused of killing teenager Harry Dunn is now wanted internationally after an Interpol red notice was issued for her arrest.

Anne Sacoolas, the 42-year-old wife of a US intelligence official, is charged with causing the death of the 19-year-old motorcyclist by dangerous driving."

 

[colin traveller]

Anne Sacoolas: International arrest warrant issued for US official's wife wanted over death of Harry Dunn

"The 42-year-old can now be arrested if she leaves America

The American woman accused of killing teenager Harry Dunn is now wanted internationally after an Interpol red notice was issued for her arrest.

Anne Sacoolas, the 42-year-old wife of a US intelligence official, is charged with causing the death of the 19-year-old motorcyclist by dangerous driving."

What the family should do is make a video .. post it on youtube .


... I bet Mr T would then interceed because it's proably unaware of the case .. in great detail

 

[Gaz]

What the family should do is make a video .. post it on youtube .


... I bet Mr T would then interceed because it's proably unaware of the case .. in great detail

Sorry, I'm being a bit dense today - by "Mr T" do you mean President Trump? He's already met with the Dunn family and nothing came of it. By the Dunn family accounts, it was a bit of a disaster. They were allegedly told- without any warning - that Sacoolas was in the building and they could meet her if they wanted to.

Harry Dunn's parents reject Trump offer to meet suspect at White House

They felt "ambushed" by Donald Trump's offer to meet suspect Anne Sacoolas at the White House.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[colin traveller]

Sorry, I'm being a bit dense today - by "Mr T" do you mean President Trump? He's already met with the Dunn family and nothing came of it. By the Dunn family accounts, it was a bit of a disaster. They were allegedly told- without any warning - that Sacoolas was in the building and they could meet her if they wanted to.

Harry Dunn's parents reject Trump offer to meet suspect at White House

They felt "ambushed" by Donald Trump's offer to meet suspect Anne Sacoolas at the White House.

www.bbc.co.uk

Never knew that

 

[muck]

It's going to be a show for the ages if she's dense enough to leave the country and get herself arrested, and Trump threatens to nuke the place if they don't return her to the States immediatedly.

 

[BCNTM]

Harry Dunn death: Teenager's mother has 'renewed hope' for justice from Joe Biden

The president-elect's first wife Neilia and 13-month-old daughter Naomi were killed in a crash a week before Christmas in 1972.

news.sky.com

Biden - honesty and truth may look a bit hollow

 

[muck]

A hypothetical president Biden might actually hand her over to the British as a gesture of goodwill. I'd feel bad for her becoming a political pawn, then again my momma taught me never to do hit-and-runs.

 

[morris]

Harry Dunn death: Teenager's mother has 'renewed hope' for justice from Joe Biden

The president-elect's first wife Neilia and 13-month-old daughter Naomi were killed in a crash a week before Christmas in 1972.

news.sky.com

Biden - honesty and truth may look a bit hollow

By tomorrow he'll forget what he said today.

 

[BCNTM]

'Please, President Biden - help me': Harry Dunn's mother appeals for justice in tearful video

In a video appeal to the president-elect, Charlotte Charles says every day is still "excruciatingly painful" without her son.

news.sky.com

 

[BCNTM]

Harry Dunn crash: Biden team says Anne Sacoolas extradition refusal 'final'

There was hope from the teenager's family the new administration would send Anne Sacoolas to the UK.

www.bbc.co.uk

So much for Biden - so sticking to the same hymn sheet as Trump

Biden lost his wife and a child in a car crash but does not have the balls to return this woman for a fair trial in the UK

 

[digrar]

 

[BCNTM]

Harry Dunn's alleged killer Anne Sacoolas could have been 'distracted by her phone', lawyers claim

Two years since the fatal crash, Harry Dunn's family are set to be in the same room as Anne Sacoolas for the very first time later this month, as part of a civil claim in the state of Virginia.

news.sky.com

looks like someone wiped this POS phone records for the day as well

 

[Gaz]

Harry Dunn family reach deal in US civil claim against Anne Sacoolas

Spokesperson says agreement in damages case is a milestone in family’s fight for justice

www.theguardian.com

 

[BCNTM]

Harry Dunn family reach deal in US civil claim against Anne Sacoolas

Spokesperson says agreement in damages case is a milestone in family’s fight for justice

www.theguardian.com

Not sure if this strengthens their case or not

Does not sit very well with me - it's a bit like blood money

She should have returned to the UK and faced a jury - she did not drive on the wrong side of the road deliberately

 

[Gaz]

I have mixed views about it. I think it's vile, but we're all kidding ourselves if we think the US is the only country in the world that's ever pulled this kind of S**t, there's an entire section on 'vehicular assault and drink driving' - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diplomatic_immunity#Uses_and_abuses

Frankly, I'm amazed that the British government have never done it. Maybe we've just been lucky with the drivers we've given diplomatic immunity to.

 

[Fluff]

Not sure if this strengthens their case or not

Does not sit very well with me - it's a bit like blood money

She should have returned to the UK and faced a jury - she did not drive on the wrong side of the road deliberately

I think I read she would probably have got community service or similar suspended sentence and a driving ban(in the UK only of course).......instead she can now never leave america.....

 

[BCNTM]

I think I read she would probably have got community service or similar suspended sentence and a driving ban(in the UK only of course).......instead she can now never leave america.....

Yes - it was, when it comes down to it, a tragic accident - she probably had a million things on her mind

She did not set out in the morning to hit someone on the wrong side of the road

It's the stunts the US pulled after the event which make me angry