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That's why this study may not be the best source when it comes to cost estimations related to certain things proposed in the GND. If you've read the study you should have also noticed that getting rid of fossil fuels would also offer some benefits in the form of cost savings. Like for example in the health sector because you'd have less sick people with diseases related to fossil fuel use. But like said the proposal (and it is nothing else than that) is simply to vague to come up with any real cost estimations and you also have the "if feasible" part which means that if it turns out to not be feasible demands can be reduced or dropped.
High-speed rail actually is an alternative to in-country flights except for certain cases like for example connecting remote islands. We currently have a discussion over here to ban them completely and limit the allowed overall flights per person because a well known mobility researcher raised this issue.
You're right when it comes to scale and it's made quite clear that a committee should be formed to evaluate the proposed things in detail and if they're possible (in scale) and if the attached costs actually would be feasible.
For a couple of reasons like for example that it would be a nation wide and not only single state project or because the Japanese approach actually seems to work out much better and is already functional and not limited to only 200km of rail.
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DeBlasio's real name is Warren Wilhelm Jr. He went to Nicaragua in the 70's to learn Communism. AOC's Democratic Tyranny Socialism would be a good follow up...She's a complete F*** up, is not accountable for her incompetence and thinks she's brilliant. Perfect.
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It's interesting that you rather trust in what the right-wing media says about her than to trust somebody who knows her personally, who you've worked with and are in personal contact with says about her. To me this comes off as clamping to something just for the sake of it even if you know it's actually wrong and seems everything else than upright.
Besides that social democracy is everything else than tyranny.
Besides that social democracy is everything else than tyranny.
If I'm reading this right someone printed a "what if AOC became mayor" story in a paper and they decided to do a whole news section on it ? Smacks of desperation to me . Hilary and her corporate goons tried this strategy against trump in 2016 and failed miserably ; I just don't understand why a respectable broadcaster like fox news would do the same .
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shocked . Don't give up the day job and all that .......
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Fox a respectale broadcaster!?! Muhahahaha...
Compare them to the BBC and you know what a bunch of clowns they're. This goes for what they report and how they do it. But to be honest there's not a single US TV news station that's on the level of what we've hear in most parts of Europe. They don't even come close over there.
UK news is really bad marsch if I'm being honest . Very pro EU and very pro war . The BBC are the worst culprits but channel 4 news comes a close second .
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New York to LA is about 4500km? An express high speed train could do that in about 15 hours? How is that a viable alternative to a 4.5 hour flight? I think there are about 70 flights a day on that particular route, call it 5000 people, 10 trains a day to cover that route, doing battle with dozens of other trains doing the smaller cities in between, that East Coast West Coast express train is slowing down, maybe call it 20 hours.
Now to deal with the other 86930 flights a day in the US... Probably not technologically feasible, economically viable or overly convenient for anything remotely long haul. But would work great getting AOC from NY to DC in under an hour.
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You're right that it would take longer but you also have to factor in shorter boarding times for example. Of course this still wouldn't reduce the time to about 5 hours or what ever it takes to get from NY to LA by plane.
On shorter routes it's definitely an option as you pointed out yourself. A direct flight from Hamburg to Berlin for example takes about 50 minutes. That's flight time only and not considering check-in, security checks, boarding/deboarding and potentially having to wait to get your luggage. An ICE takes about 1 hour and 45 minutes for comparison. Besides that trains normally don't get delayed like planes often do and it's also less stressful to travel by train.
The "battle with other trains" argument is a non-issue as you'd have "fast lanes" that would be reserved for direct high speed connections. If other trains would also use these lanes than they'd have to wait and give way for the faster ones. That's common practice already today.
Fact is that air traffic is a major pollutant (contaminator) and something has to be done to lower its emissions. Reducing flights and replacing them with more environmental friendly methods of travel is therefore inevitable. Even if it takes a bit longer under certain circumstances.
I also want to mention that the 300km/h example isn't the maximum achievable speed for high-speed trains. The French TGV and the Japanese Shinkansen are planned to go 360km/h and the German Valero E achieves over 400km/h (cruising speed). But this by far isn't the end of what's possible. High-speed trains will achieve speeds far exceeding 500km/h in the foreseeable future (see the record run of the French V150 achieving a topspeed of 574km/h for example).
On shorter routes it's definitely an option as you pointed out yourself. A direct flight from Hamburg to Berlin for example takes about 50 minutes. That's flight time only and not considering check-in, security checks, boarding/deboarding and potentially having to wait to get your luggage. An ICE takes about 1 hour and 45 minutes for comparison. Besides that trains normally don't get delayed like planes often do and it's also less stressful to travel by train.
The "battle with other trains" argument is a non-issue as you'd have "fast lanes" that would be reserved for direct high speed connections. If other trains would also use these lanes than they'd have to wait and give way for the faster ones. That's common practice already today.
Fact is that air traffic is a major pollutant (contaminator) and something has to be done to lower its emissions. Reducing flights and replacing them with more environmental friendly methods of travel is therefore inevitable. Even if it takes a bit longer under certain circumstances.
I also want to mention that the 300km/h example isn't the maximum achievable speed for high-speed trains. The French TGV and the Japanese Shinkansen are planned to go 360km/h and the German Valero E achieves over 400km/h (cruising speed). But this by far isn't the end of what's possible. High-speed trains will achieve speeds far exceeding 500km/h in the foreseeable future (see the record run of the French V150 achieving a topspeed of 574km/h for example).
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To say Stop eating / avoid cauliflower because its too colonial is thee most absurd retarded bs ive ever heard anyone describe a Veg .
She needs put down
She needs put down
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If we're compensating for 87000 flights a day, there is going to be congestion on these tracks. Even with rail duplication/triplication and sidings all over the place. I don't think we can compare to anything that is happening today volume wise.
One train bomb and TSA will be fondling your junk before getting access to the carriage and that argument will be dead in the water too. Along with the whole massive car park transition to train station drama, when 87000 flights worth of people are going through train stations. All of the negatives of airports will transfer to train stations when you supersize the volume of passengers.
I'm picking something like electric powered by hydrogen aircraft will be more viable than high speed rail in places like the US, Australia, SE Asia.
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That's of course true and I dont think that it's possible to completely replace air travel with high-speed trains at all. I also don't think that a replacement can be achieved in short term (say five years) and would envision that it would take at least two decades or more to build the needed infrastructur up to a level in which it can actually be considered more than a supplement.
Considering what you said about the "capacity" problem. These trains can carry more passengers than your standard airplane and it's possible to run one every couple of minutes on a single track with the respective infrastructure and logisitics. That's not that much of a problem in my opinion.
As you may remember we had a few train bombings already and so far you dont need to pass a security check to board a train. When it comes to transition to and from the stations, parking spaces and the like it wouldn't be much different to airports. With the exception that you can stack railway platforms which is only possible in a limited way with airport gates. It's also easier to incorporate modern "smart" traffic routeing and parking systems into newly built (infra)structurs which surely would be the case.
I dont know much about how far this technology is at this point but think that I've read something about range problems compared with currently used types of aircrafts but they could of course be an alternative. As everything else with a lower greenhouse gas footprint could.
The thing is that the GND doesn't explicitly mentions airtravel, clearly states where technologically feasible and calls for investment in high-speed rail among other things and in this sector the USA are clearly lacking behind massively compared to other countries.
It's actually the people that aren't able to read and interpret such a simple document or the ones that simply want to create a false narrative that blew the whole thing out of proportion.
Considering what you said about the "capacity" problem. These trains can carry more passengers than your standard airplane and it's possible to run one every couple of minutes on a single track with the respective infrastructure and logisitics. That's not that much of a problem in my opinion.
As you may remember we had a few train bombings already and so far you dont need to pass a security check to board a train. When it comes to transition to and from the stations, parking spaces and the like it wouldn't be much different to airports. With the exception that you can stack railway platforms which is only possible in a limited way with airport gates. It's also easier to incorporate modern "smart" traffic routeing and parking systems into newly built (infra)structurs which surely would be the case.
I dont know much about how far this technology is at this point but think that I've read something about range problems compared with currently used types of aircrafts but they could of course be an alternative. As everything else with a lower greenhouse gas footprint could.
The thing is that the GND doesn't explicitly mentions airtravel, clearly states where technologically feasible and calls for investment in high-speed rail among other things and in this sector the USA are clearly lacking behind massively compared to other countries.
It's actually the people that aren't able to read and interpret such a simple document or the ones that simply want to create a false narrative that blew the whole thing out of proportion.
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The boob strikes again.
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What we need to realize is that only important people need to travel by air. The average joes should be content to ride 2nd class coach trains or express bulk trains like back in the good old days when the peasants rode in steerage on the big ships.
Same thing for cars. Besides, people having the ability to carry more in a vehicle than what they can physically carry with/on their own bodies just promotes consumerism, desires for stuff, fully detached houses, RVs, being able to access things/places they really don't need to be visiting.
Same thing for cars. Besides, people having the ability to carry more in a vehicle than what they can physically carry with/on their own bodies just promotes consumerism, desires for stuff, fully detached houses, RVs, being able to access things/places they really don't need to be visiting.
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The average joe should not have any desires, let alone the ability to fly. The average joe merely needs to send all that he produces by the sweat of his brow to the Socialist machine, which spend it as it sees fit and then asks for more.
A bit like the capitalist machine then......
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