Politics AOC… The Elected and Despised

600k for what? Where did you got that number from? Besides that things like for example insulation of houses can be subsidised by the government with either additional payments or tax reductions to lower the burden if necessary. Of course that money has to come from somewhere. Let me suggest to start with your overblown military spending.

You've all possibilities to become the world leader in such things. It would open up totally new business opportunities and create lots of new jobs but instead you're fighting the inevitbale with tooth and nails.

About your way of live. It is unsustainable! Get that into your head. Are you really to unable to understand that further generations have to be also able to live on this planet or do you simply give a f**k?

Have you ACTUALLY read it, or are you pulling my leg? Do a bit more homework and get back to me. I'd enjoy having this conversation.
 
I wonder if somebody in here did actually bothered to look at her "Green New Deal" proposal. I've read it and can't see much wrong in it. Some things she demands are even implemented over here already and seem to work out well.


It seems your fishing ...or you woefully forgetful of the fact underher looney tune plan .. it also included unwilling to work ..

A high speed rail no airtravel ,in 10 yrs ,, yet how in the chuff do you get to Hawaii other than boat
 
Have you ACTUALLY read it, or are you pulling my leg? Do a bit more homework and get back to me. I'd enjoy having this conversation.

Can't you read? Yes, like I've already said.

I ask you where you got that number from. Seems out of thin air as you aren't able to provide any (reliable) source. Besides that you're surely not in the position to tell me to do my homework as you've obviously not done yours. You're simply not able to wrap your head around things like this. That's the problem here.

It seems your fishing ...or you woefully forgetful of the fact underher looney tune plan .. it also included unwilling to work ..

A high speed rail no airtravel ,in 10 yrs ,, yet how in the chuff do you get to Hawaii other than boat

Where does she propose no air travel? Show me! Here's the link to the resolution.

https://ocasio-cortez.house.gov/sites/ocasio-cortez.house.gov/files/Resolution on a Green New Deal.pdf

What she's proposing on page 8 line 15 is:

Overhauling transportation systems in the United States to remove pollution and greenhouse gas emissions from the transportation sector as much as is technologically feasible, including through investment in -
(i) zero-emission vehicle infrastructure and manufacturing;
(ii) clean, affordable, and accessible public transit; and
(iii) high-speed rail;


Do you know what "as much as is technoligically feasible" means?

You've formed an opinion without ever having read the whole thing. Just go away!
 
About your way of live. It is unsustainable! Get that into your head. Are you really to unable to understand that further generations have to be also able to live on this planet or do you simply give a f**k?

The most pressing need in order to make future generations to be able to live in this planet is to tackle the problem of overpopulation and the out of control birth rate in the third world. Thats the real big issue, and not the paper bags at supermarkets or the plastic forks/spoons and cups.
But I never see any leftie/ecologist saying how many millions of humans need to be "removed" in the third world in order to make the world sustainable…... Noooo, they only keep complaining about our way of life in America, Europe, Russia, Japan, etc....
In a generation, you can change the way 1billion people live, but in the meantime you have given birth to an additional 4 to 6 billion who dont give a f... and that puts your overall population at around 13 billion humans, and the issue then becomes even harder to tackle.
 
You're right it's one of the pressuring problems and that it never gets touched for PC reasons. I'm not a leftist or as left as you may think. I'm just common sense. So I'm with you here. Besides that plastic bags and so on are not the problem where I'm from. At least not when it comes to environmental pollution because we don't dump them into the ocean. That's mainly a third world problem.

But over population is not the point here. This topic is related to AOC.
 
Can't you read? Yes, like I've already said.

I ask you where you got that number from. Seems out of thin air as you aren't able to provide any (reliable) source. Besides that you're surely not in the position to tell me to do my homework as you've obviously not done yours. You're simply not able to wrap your head around things like this. That's the problem here.

Here you go.



Busy now. I'll stop by later.
 
You know factcheck is a left leaning site. You may trust them, but I don't.

Anyway, according to that story, they have no idea what it would cost. But one of their "experts" thinks $5 Trillion over 5 years is a good start, but doesn't elaborate on total cost or what that "start" would include.. Basically, send us all your money and freedom, and we'll tell you when we're done.

To quote The Kiwi, who so eloquently put it, "I have no desire to be a serf in the Green Reich".
 
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After saying the world will rnd in 12yrs ...

She now claims she was joking ( aye right )
 
As for ending Air travel IT is true ...it was in the first press release as was unwilling to work ...

Look thro mark dices early videos of the GND ..ITS CLEAR PLAIN AS DAY
 
That $50 to $90 trillion cost is pretty well estimated. The "Fact Check" reply is full of weasel words and deflections like "the GND won't ban cars or airplanes" which while technically correct ignore that it seeks to replace them whenever there any kind of alternative. For example in the "mistakenly released version" (or the version where our dreams got caught out) it states "building out highspeed rail at a scale where air travel stops becoming necessary" which would require a LOT of high speed rail.

Then there was dumb stuff like the jobs guarantee and the "fair living allowance for people unwilling to work" bits.

Short answer: This is dumb, she is dumb. Dumb x dumb = dumb squared.
 
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Back in 2015 a team of Stanford engineers led by Mark Jacobson outlined a plan back for converting the US to 100% renewable energy (not using nuclear power or more hydro which are icky according to modern era Green groupthink).

Jacobson's repowering plan would involve installing 335,000 onshore wind turbines; 154,000 offshore wind turbines; 75 million residential photovoltaic systems; 2.75 million commercial photovoltaic systems; 46,000 utility-scale photovoltaic facilities; 3,600 concentrated solar power facilities with onsite heat storage; and an extensive array of underground thermal storage facilities.

The cost: About $13 trillion. And based on how fast it has taken to install energy generation infrastructure in the past, Jacobson's repowering plan would require a sustained installation rate that is more than 14 times the U.S. average over the last 55 years and more than six times the peak rate.
 
Interesting. Our Congressman, a heart surgeon that I used to work with, says that AOC is actually quite a bright bulb. Hard to really tell from a distance, what with her acting like she has the IQ of a toaster.
 
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Let's be honest , free market economics is not exactly going great , with most western economys running debt levels at circa 100% of GDP . No bother though if it all goes bust like it did in 2008 , we ll just palm it all off on the taxpayer . The banking system just loves socialism when it suits them .
 
Let's be honest , free market economics is not exactly going great , with most western economys running debt levels at circa 100% of GDP . No bother though if it all goes bust like it did in 2008 , we ll just palm it all off on the taxpayer . The banking system just loves socialism when it suits them .


I guess the beauty of Socialism is that it always works like a charm.......ummm.....


Socialism requires Capitalism as a jump start. It needs the foundation of Capitalism to use as kindling wood. No other way to start that fire. Shortly thereafter Socialism typically self-immolates. Works every time.
 
You know factcheck is a left leaning site. You may trust them, but I don't.

Anyway, according to that story, they have no idea what it would cost. But one of their "experts" thinks $5 Trillion over 5 years is a good start, but doesn't elaborate on total cost or what that "start" would include.. Basically, send us all your money and freedom, and we'll tell you when we're done.

No it's not. It's has the best rating a website can get (least biased).

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/factcheck/

Until now it's just a proposal and like the factcheck article points out it's actually impossible to estimate the costs until something concrete gets put together by a commitee. So hold your breath and stop spewing right-wing BS.

Short answer: This is dumb, she is dumb. Dumb x dumb = dumb squared.

If she's dump² than at least 75% of the people in US politics have an IQ below 80. Which means they're mentally retarded. ;)

Interesting. Our Congressman, a heart surgeon that I used to work with, says that AOC is actually quite a bright bulb. Hard to really tell from a distance, what with her acting like she has the IQ of a toaster.

Hear, hear!!!
 
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