Photos Afghan Armed Forces (Prior to 2021)

[BeNder]

Thanks America, Im pretty sure some of those arms and systems knowledge will make a cameo in our theaters here

OK Lubitz , we will get better.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Thanks America, Im pretty sure some of those arms and systems knowledge will make a cameo in our theaters here

Suddenly Duterte isn't good for you anymore?

 

[Telmar]

George Malbrunot, Middle East reporter for French paper "le Figaro" posted this small tweet showing the hypocrisy of al jazeera

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[Junglejim]

Suddenly Duterte isn't good for you anymore?

huh? you do know that a lot of the terror here get their trainings frim afghanistan right? Now that would include the knowledge that theANA just handed to the taliban.

What does duterte have anything to do with it?

 

[Mike1976]

Netherlands
- at least two C-130H-30s (for example: 1 C-130 flew out 69 Germans and 9 Dutch yesterday; the other suffered some kind of technical issue).
- The Dutch are planning to increase the tempo to three C-130-flights a day, today.

At least 700 Dutch "citizens" are registered as still being in Afghanistan. Many of these include registered refugees that had returned to visit family. I guess during that brief moment in time Afghanistan wasn't that dangerous place that they had to flee from for fear of their lives and absolutely under no circumstance could be deported back to because it would mean a death sentence or so human rights NGOs and lawyers say ... This is also a big thing among Somali and Ethiopian migrants.

I'm very, very, surprised: nobody is evacuating expats and Afghans via Qatar.

I think the Netherlands is operating from Qatar or Jordan. The anti-IS operations were also run from there. The MoD refuses to name any locations though.

Operations of European countries are being frustrated because there is no air traffic control at KBL and the Americans have taken over control of operations. This means that flights can be ordered to leave without warning at any time with many aircraft being only partially full as the US' own flights are prioritised even when it makes no sense from a logistical perspective.

A show run by the special needs clowns of the Pentagon ??

 

[Siberian Tiger]

People only talk how bad this war ended, compared it to fall of Saigon, how the US, didn't learn anything, but there was a more recent conflict that the result wasn't this one, I'm talking about Iraq.

The US and allies ground troops pull out in 2011

Withdrawal of United States troops from Iraq (2007–2011) - Wikipedia

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Everyone remembers ISIS taken over Iraq Army and a big part of Iraq territory, but they didn't collapse.
With US and allies support Iraqis got their country back from ISIS.

War in Iraq (2013–2017) - Wikipedia

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And are keeping it fighting a counter insurgency against ISIS remains.

Islamic State insurgency in Iraq (2017–present) - Wikipedia

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Unfortunately, this result couldn't be replicate in Afghanistan, different terrain, different people, different countries, probably the Iraqis have a stronger national identity, a proud heritage of past civilizations, Afghans are still very tribal I think.

 

[Mike1976]

♤Yes, that was another brilliant 4D chess move from Democrat imbeciles.♤

 

[nicememe]

The snow patrol.
Probably is planning to invade Russia during winter.

 

[Mike1976]

It appears that both France and the UK have been planning for and arranging evacuations since mid-May. But an actual superpower couldn't have done anything more than they are doing now ?

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

 

[Jake84]

Thanks to the contributors in this thread. Really interesting to see. Love all the knowledge that also helpes me understand and know more.

Pretty much the purpose of a forum eh? Sometimes it’s entertaining, sometimes we learn. Also pretty happy with this thread too. It hasn’t derailed too much despite Devil Child reminder earlier.

Anyways, what Ivan and nicememe have posted raise concerns about the so-called Moderate Talibans, their new selling point. Wait until the last of Uncle Sam soldier is gone and (unfortunately) we’ll see what happens.

It has already happened anyway.

We are caught in a perilous Western schizophrenia about this shitshow: « freedom of women and afghan girls », « 20 years was more than enough… » or better yet who’s to blame of the last three POTUS or Biden.

 

[nicememe]

It appears that both France and the UK have been planning for and arranging evacuations since mid-May. But an actual superpower couldn't have done anything more than they are doing now ?

It would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

Not sure, maybe it was already discussed, I'm lazy to read everything.
But could Trump's evacuation plan have fallen victim to indiscriminate termination of all Trump orders upon Biden's ascension to the throne?
I remember first thing Biden was doing when he came to office was cancelling a bunch of Trump orders. So maybe it wasn't Biden's plan to cancel the evacuation plan, but he just cancelled the whole package of papers that were put in front of him.
And only now realized he F***ed up.

 

[Chazman]

Exclusive: Ex-Trump aide lays out Afghan withdrawal plan that Biden scrapped

Trump's overarching theme was a conditions-based withdrawal from Afghanistan, Kash Patel says.

justthenews.com

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Taliban takes over U.S. war chest given to Afghan military

U.S. officials are worried that the Taliban could use the equipment, including firearms and drones, against civilians.

www.axios.com

US Intel agencies watched this happening in real time & the USG did nothing to stop it. The President said on AB that the US retained the capability to strike at terrorists so by his own admission the capability was there - what was lacking?

The political will.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

German broadcaster says the Taliban are carrying out 'organized searches' for journalists

Taliban fighters searching for a Deutsche Welle journalist in Afghanistan shot dead a member of his family and seriously injured another, Germany's international public broadcaster reported.

edition.cnn.com

Taliban fighters searching for a Deutsche Welle journalist in Afghanistan shot dead a member of his family and seriously injured another, Germany's international public broadcaster reported.

Regarding the airport situation: Chaos “at all gates”, Taliban gunfire, beating people.
I’m messaging with an interpreter who is there, trying to get into one of the gates. All gates are closed because the airfield is currently at max capacity, I am told.

 

[nicememe]

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[Gordus]

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Soviets fought Talibs armed with British gear, Americans fought Talibs armed with Soviet gear. China will fight Talibs armed with U.S. gear.
The poor man's way of modernising the armed forces.

 

[Chazman]

Taliban takes over U.S. war chest given to Afghan military

U.S. officials are worried that the Taliban could use the equipment, including firearms and drones, against civilians.

www.axios.com

US Intel agencies watched this happening in real time & the USG did nothing to stop it. The President said on AB that the US retained the capability to strike at terrorists so by his own admission the capability was there - what was lacking?

The political will.

Yeah well, there was a time when these agencies were run by people who loved their country and made the defense of the US a lifelong career.

Currently they are run by social justice warriors and woke idiots, more interested in persecuting Patriots over FB posts with too many US Constitution posts or American flags or Trump memes.

Eventually a catastrophe was going to happen. It’s like trusting your gardener to do brain surgery. There was a time when these traitors would be rounded up, arrested and thrown in prison.

Even the corrupt media will have a hard time protecting Sleepy Joe and his band of fukcups over this.

 

[FLYNAVY]

Brief summary of the air-bridge.


To start with, right now there's no flight control over Afghanistan: flight-crews are "de-conflicting" each other through mutual communication.
The situation at the Hamid Karzai International ("Kabul IAP", for simplicity's sake) is reported as between "volatile", "chaotic" and "tense", depending on the source.
All the European-NATO-patners are complaining that the Americans are determining who is permitted to board the aircrafts, who to land and who to take-off - entirely at their own discretion. If anything is not to their wish, they're shutting down the entire operation. This is regularly resulting in other (than American) aircraft flying out half-empty.
Similarly, the Americans are insisting on being the only ones to have a contact to the Taliban. NATO is zip lip on this, the EU is now trying to open its own communication link (I'm sure that Doha will be curious to help...).
There are reports about multiple Taliban teams moving among the masses of people at the airport, searching for members of the armed forces and for "Afghans" that used to work with the USA and NATO: they are threatening to open fire if the people wouldn't reveal such persons - which in turn is making the Americans ever more nervous. It remains "unclear" what subsequently happens to whoever is caught.

Anyway, as far as we know, the following contingents are involved:

Afghanistan
- 400-500 commandos of the ("former") National Directorate of Security, plus scattered ANA troops are helping US and other foreign troops in controlling the perimeter and overseeing the evacuation. The Pentagon was quick to agree with them, that they're going to act as a rear-guard and be the last flown out.

Denmark
- 1 or 2 C-130Js are used to evacuate Danes and eligible Afghans (including their families) to Islamabad; from there they're flown to Denmark by chartered civilian airliners.
- A company-sized element of the ARmy SOF (Jaegerkorpset) is involved, too.

France
- at least one A.400M and one C-130H-30 are flying people out to Dhafra AB, in the UAE: from there, A.330s of the AdA are flying people to France.

Germany
- A.400Ms of the Luftwaffe; don't know how many, but between 18 August and yesterday afternoon, they've evacuated 1,150 people - all to Tashkent in Uzbekistan. A single A.400M flew out 230 people, yesterday. It was followed by two additional A.400s, which managed to evacuate 800.
- Germans have meanwhile deployed a team of the KSK to Kabul, to help with evacuation and "vetting".
- Germans also recently deployed two H.145M helicopters to Kabul IAP: these are planned to be used for picking evacuees that can't reach the airport...

Great Britain
- It might be easier to get a spoon full of snake's sweat than precise info in this regards. Essentially, London claimed the evacuation would be running "at full speed" already two days ago, and it intends to evacuate 6,000-7,000 British nationals and eligible Afghan staff.
- involved British troops seem to be from the 16th Air Assault Brigade. RAF is probably involved with Globemaster and Hercules transports...
- Aid workers are excluded, just like about 125 Afghan guards of the UK Embassy: the latter were hired by a private contractor, and thus are not eligible for evacuation.

Italy
- 4 C-130Js are used to evacuate people to Kuwait. From there, 3 KC-767 are flying people out to Italy.
- Italians have a small team of the Tuscania Airborne Regiment (Gendarmerie) at Kabul IAP.
- Italian gov is planning to evacuate 2,500 Afghans that used to work for it.

Netherlands
- at least two C-130H-30s (for example: 1 C-130 flew out 69 Germans and 9 Dutch yesterday; the other suffered some kind of technical issue).
- The Dutch are planning to increase the tempo to three C-130-flights a day, today.

Romania
- 1 flight to Islamabad (Pakistan) - by C-130 - evacuating 2 Romanians, 1 British, 1 Bulgarian, and 1 US citizen.
- 14 Romanians waiting to be evacuated yet.
- C-27J available to support if necessary.

Spain
- At least two A.400Ms were involved the last two days; the number should be increased to 4 today. They're evacuating to Dubai, UAE. An airborne ambulance (unclear if A.320 or Dassault Mystere) is waiting for permission to fly to Kabul.
- Spain has two teams deployed at Kabul IAP: a squadron of EZAPAC, the other is the GEO of the CNP at Kabul IAP. The latter are civilians, no military personnel: well-armed for anti-terrorist and security operations, but not trained for "combat", actually. Both were deployed to secure the perimeter (especially the runway).
- Spanish MOD claimed no Spaniards are left in Afghanistan, but this turned out to be wrong when the former Spanish ambassador (sacked on 3 August, but still waiting for replacement) turned out to still be there and organising the evacuation of remaining Spaniards and Afghan co-workers. Meanwhile Spanish president Sanchez continues his vacation at Canary Islands.
- So far, it seems the Taliban denied access to the "Afghan" translators that used to work for the Spanish government and army.
- Thus, the CNP GEO team drove out of the airport (in borrowed vehicles) and picked up a group of Afghans that used to work for Spaniards. These were flown out by a Spanish A.400M, late in the evening: total of 48. Another flight then evacuated about 100.

Turkey
- A.400Ms are flying in and out, but I can't find any precise info, right now.
- Turkish Army has a total of 650 troops drawn from the 2 Bolu Commando Brigade and 5 Hakkari Brigade, reinforced by 200 Azerbaijani Army troops, deployed for protection of the Kabul IAP's perimeter.

USA
- The Pentagon has declared this a "non-combat evacuation operation".
- since 14 August, the Pentagon claims to have evacuated 9,000.
- involved aircraft: lots of C-17As (about 20 flights are undertaken a day), no clear info, but most of ground troops seem to be from the 10th Mountain Division, US Army.
- There are certainly diverse special forces assets around: their presence is confirmed by activities of MH-60M Black Hawk, MH-47G Chinook, and AH/MH-6 Little Bird helicopters - mostly from the 160th SO Aviation Regiment, US Army.
- what's sure is that the PMC contracted to support the State Department has abandoned all seven of CH-46E Sea Knights it used to operate in Afghanistan. These included the one with the registration 154038/N38TU, which - while still operated by the USMC - was involved in the Operation Frequent Wind (Saigon, 1975).
- HH-60Ls operated by the same "wing" of the State Department have all been withdrawn.
- There are considerations of the USA securing the (abandoned) Baghram AB, north of Kabul, to enable more people to be flown out - but there's definitely no "political will" to do so.
- F/A-18E/Fs from USS Ronald Reagan (CVN-76) are flying top cover (via Pakistan).

As far as I was able to collect info, since Sunday, 15 August, at least 12 people were killed at the Kabul IAP. Some while falling off the aircraft after take-off, others by US, Turkish and other troops deployed there.
Overall number of evacuated so far: 18,000 (as of the last night).


I'm very, very, surprised: nobody is evacuating expats and Afghans via Qatar.

Fairly accurate battle plan for the evacuation xcept a couple of things. The US is providing all air traffic & ground traffic control for KBL airport on a secure channel & time of planned arrival @ KBL using ACARS so we can que up for landing. Its very organized, clear & concise & all information is in the international english language [even for the French]. Charter & commercial flights were under VFR initially but are now allowed on the secure frequency [there aren't that many now]. Unless there is a medical emergency or bingo fuel all flights are taken in order, there is no preference for US. There is some fuel on the ground but most fully loaded transports take off low fuel state to max passengers. Denmark is no longer using the assholes in Pakistan, Doha is better set up for refugees who once vetted & medicals can continue on an SAS commercial/charter flight at Crown expense to Copenhagen. Kinda on a funny note, years ago when we built a slide in pressurized medical surgical cargo container they built a slide in multiple toilet module for our C-130s & C-17s. God bless whoever designed the toilets with holding tanks. We rarely have to hose out & disinfect the cargo bay/hold this week, Afghans tend to drop trou & go anywhere. I can't imagine a 6 hr flight for 600+ folks with only 1 shitter.
Danish Jaegers, Brit SAS & other SF are in the field rounding up diplomats & their families, including Americans & Afghans & families, this will take awhile but coms are still working so it's semi organized. Those collected are getting on site without a scratch & describe the ride as an E ticket ride at Disney World, haha. Some are bringing hot food to share with the crew & we appreciate it. Hot food is also @ Doha now so no one is going hungry. We dehead back with supplies & equipment & rotate sleep during so 27/7 in no problem. There are some errant rifle shots being taken & there is some concern that the taliban have gotten their hands on some serious missiles but there are aircraft orbiting over KBL & some of us have Elbit defense systems in use.
& we still need Bagram. I know the taliban made the US vacate it so it couldn't be used against them but damn it was a nice base with 2 state of the art runways in top condition.
& to show my sense of humor is still intact:

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Currently they are run by social justice warriors and woke idiots, more interested in persecuting Patriots over FB posts with too many US Constitution posts or American flags or Trump memes.

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"I am unapologetically me" and incompetence comes with.

 

[nicememe]

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"I am unapologetically me" and incompetence comes with.

"I'm diagnosed with a mental illness. I work for CIA."