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It is amazing how you guys did not realized you bomb runs problem solving did not solve anything in last 20 years. Despite catastrophic end of this policy, you still believe that a bit more air strikes can change something.
I was a big proponent of the Americans keeping Bagram Air Base. Staff about 3K soldiers for perimeter security. Park a few fast movers & a few spookies & if the ANA had held together they could tell us coordinates when the taliban massed somewhere & bomb the dickens out of them. Would not have stopped the random attacks but they couldn't have taken over the entire gov't. Keep a base there for the next 50 years. Rotate air squadrons from NATO like we do for the Baltic Patrols.
 
Denmark & Netherlands banned unvaccinated US travelers & refugees from our borders. Have set up a tent city with the Germans @ Ramstein to vaccinate & park our refugees for about a month.
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" I was a big proponent of the Americans keeping Bagram Air Base. Staff about 3K soldiers for perimeter security. Park a few fast movers & a few spookies & if the ANA had held together they could tell us coordinates when the taliban massed somewhere & bomb the dickens out of them. Would not have stopped the random attacks but they couldn't have taken over the entire gov't. Keep a base there for the next 50 years. Rotate air squadrons from NATO like we do for the Baltic Patrols."

So the ANA would crumble next month instead of last month? Even the Trump admin saw the end, despite of the denial from Baguette Bob in this forum.
 
Still missing the point are you?

Bait harder (or follow mordoror's path, I'm fine with that as well).



More regarding one of the ultimate beneficiaries of the American fiasco in Afghanistan.

No matter how one looks at it or try to justify it by saying it's not the most advanced technology, having large numbers of military equipment fall into the hands of the enemy is a bad thing. And now, the Taliban (not ANA) are sharing their bounty with their allies who are of course hostile to Western interests.

Anyway, there are new reports from sources on the ground that large numbers of Humvees and Blackhawk helicopters are being shipped to Iran. In short order, the Iranians have gained new American produced equipment to upgrade their arsenal at no cost at all.
The Israelis are already warning that the Iranians may employ those spoils for false flag operations thus gaining an unpleasant element of surprise. And, incidentally, the Israelis would know this very well as they had used the same tactics in war in the past by pressing captured Arab T-54,T-55 and T-62 tanks into service as the Tiran series.



And finally, to the displeasure of the Bidenites:


Looks like the great success wasn't that great... "Refugees pushed their way onto planes", "nearly 15,000 Afghan refugees were stuffed into hangers", "single males, including former Afghan military had become unruly", "contraband weapons have been confiscated."

Overwhelmed, neither base was testing Afghan evacuees for the coronavirus.

According to former Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell that the vetting process under Biden was "a disaster," citing multiple sources within DHS and the U.S. Embassy in Germany.

"The Biden administration team is asking career officials to put these people through quickly, when there is a lack of information, when they don’t have documentation".
"They’re being told to use a hunch. Use your own internal mechanism to know whether or not these individuals should come to the United States".
 
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Way in time ago there were tales of secretive English speaking gentlemen appearing in the night, in Iran or somewhere, and taking people through dangerous countryside to safety. I wonder if there are secretive English speaking gentlemen (from Hereford etc) who are never talked about doing similar tasks under the noses of the Taliban .
 
Way in time ago there were tales of secretive English speaking gentlemen appearing in the night, in Iran or somewhere, and taking people through dangerous countryside to safety. I wonder if there are secretive English speaking gentlemen (from Hereford etc) who are never talked about doing similar tasks under the noses of the Taliban .

There are "people" doing "things".
 
I was a big proponent of the Americans keeping Bagram Air Base. Staff about 3K soldiers for perimeter security. Park a few fast movers & a few spookies & if the ANA had held together they could tell us coordinates when the taliban massed somewhere & bomb the dickens out of them. Would not have stopped the random attacks but they couldn't have taken over the entire gov't. Keep a base there for the next 50 years. Rotate air squadrons from NATO like we do for the Baltic Patrols.
That means civil war would last for another 50 years. But you dont really give a damn right?
 
Way in time ago there were tales of secretive English speaking gentlemen appearing in the night, in Iran or somewhere, and taking people through dangerous countryside to safety. I wonder if there are secretive English speaking gentlemen (from Hereford etc) who are never talked about doing similar tasks under the noses of the Taliban .
A gentleman never tells.
 
Denmark & Netherlands banned unvaccinated US travelers & refugees from our borders. Have set up a tent city with the Germans @ Ramstein to vaccinate & park our refugees for about a month. View attachment 332897
Poland took 500 at an American request. 50 of them are going to stay, due to cooperating with the Polish Army, while 450 will have to relocate elsewhere after a few months.
An Afghan family had experienced a traumatic situation in Poland. They left a refugee centre and went to a forest to pick mushrooms. They ended up picking poisonous mushrooms, probably death caps, and having been poisoned. Two boys, aged 5 and 6, died, while all adults survived.

I believe, the American approach of sending these refugees to Third World countries, like Uganda, and paying their authorities some money for keeping them, is a good solution.

After all, both Afghans and Ugandans share the same IQ level of 84:
 
" I was a big proponent of the Americans keeping Bagram Air Base. Staff about 3K soldiers for perimeter security. Park a few fast movers & a few spookies & if the ANA had held together they could tell us coordinates when the taliban massed somewhere & bomb the dickens out of them. Would not have stopped the random attacks but they couldn't have taken over the entire gov't. Keep a base there for the next 50 years. Rotate air squadrons from NATO like we do for the Baltic Patrols."

So the ANA would crumble next month instead of last month? Even the Trump admin saw the end, despite of the denial from Baguette Bob in this forum.

Bro Bro, I see you have a hard-on for America, just asking why, I mean I think the Philipines are beautiful people. Just asking why.
 
The reason the Afghan "army" crumbled so fast is because they were the equivalent of a "mercenary army".
Multiple classics on political and military science talked of how fragile and undependable mercenaries are in wars, and we had this knowledge for centuries.

Once the US realized its blunders and did so to a degree that it actually committed to pulling out, to assure a safe pull-out it wouldn't need to just rely on itself, rely on Trump plan or Biden plan, or rely on a pointless mercenary army.
It would need to establish a comprehensive strategy involving all CSTO and SCO member-states and observers. Why? Because nobody closely or remotely bordering Afghanistan benefits from a botched-up US withdrawal aside from scoring short-term political points by laughing at the US. But the long-term problem remains - now the Taliban & Co. are a threat to everyone in the region. And ultimately, everyone in the region would have been interested in helping the US to withdraw pacifically, providing the logistics, the army personnel, maybe even the funds, to ensure a "safe exit" that wouldn't shake the entire region.
But to negotiate with CSTO/SCO the US would have to completely swallow its pride. And apparently pride is more important than safety. Or rather, ideological optics are worth more than human lives. Even American ones.
 
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