Politics Syrian Civil War

[berkut76]

Erdogan funded and encouraged rebel groups to start the Syrian civil war in order to overthrow Assad and fulfill his fantasy of remaking the Ottoman Empire.

Nope, this is Assad's own making. If SAA didn't disintegrate along the sectarian lines, this war would have been over by now. However, once again I have to say that Arab states with a few exceptions are nothing more territories, there are tribal identities, but allegiances to the states are weak to non-existent. All of the Arab states have artificial borders drawn by the British and French colonial overlords. Now, what can loosely be called a Syrian territory is roamed by roving bands with allegiances only to the highest bidder. I have no idea how and when this could end since all of the players in the game have no common denominator and outright hate each other, yet no a single faction appear to be able to prevail over the rest.

 

[Chazman]

Nope, this is Assad's own making. If SAA didn't disintegrate along the sectarian lines, this war would have been over by now. However, once again I have to say that Arab states with a few exceptions are nothing more territories, there are tribal identities, but allegiances to the states are weak to non-existent. All of the Arab states have artificial borders drawn by the British and French colonial overlords. Now, what can loosely be called a Syrian territory is roamed by roving bands with allegiances only to the highest bidder. I have no idea how and when this could end since all of the players in the game have no common denominator and outright hate each other, yet no a single faction appear to be able to prevail over the rest.

I agree with everything you just said and I certainly don't hold Assad blameless. He's a murderous two bit dictator like his father. But Erdogan has been fueling this conflict from the start as he is now. He saw an opportunity to gain a foothold on territory which he considers Turkish and aggressively pursued it.

 

[nemipuka_]

Unfortunately "the left" are pro war as usual, in the election there's no anti war traction with college and youth, all they care about is Trump and getting more bathrooms for non existent genders, oh and pay their debts.
Good news on that last point! The way things are going they may get a chance to put a uniform on and pay their debts.
And smarten up a little too.

Now, now, they have huge number of peace-loving politicians, like this charming lady:

 

[Fluff]

I agree with everything you just said and I certainly don't hold Assad blameless. He's a murderous two bit dictator like his father. But Erdogan has been fueling this conflict from the start as he is now. He saw an opportunity to gain a foothold on territory which he considers Turkish and aggressively pursued it.

I would add blindly and stupidly. By stupid I mean, had he invaded this area 2 years ago, and built up some defences, he might not now be losing so many people. He has waited to the end game, made a half assed move(he had years to plan this!) and is now losing his rag with pretty much everyone, except Russia - who are the main killers of his troops..... you really couldn't make this SH*T up.

 

[nemipuka_]

The Rebels may have shot down one Turkish drone by mistake. Still unconfirmed...

 

[morris]

The Rebels may have shot down one Turkish drone by mistake. Still unconfirmed...

They look so happy about it.

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[Ivan le Fou]

They look so happy about it.

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They look happy by mistake.

In other news, turkey launched a new military operation in Syria, nicknamed "Spring Shield".

 

[morris]

They look happy by mistake.

How can that be?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

How can that be?
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Hum... how to put in a gentle way... they are not known for being bright.

 

[nemipuka_]

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Turkey launches Operation Spring Shield against regime aggression in Syria

The Turkish military launches its fourth cross-border operation in Syria – Operation Spring Shield in an effort to protect civilians and end Syrian...

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[Gnarlycharlie]

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Turkey launches Operation Spring Shield against regime aggression in Syria

The Turkish military launches its fourth cross-border operation in Syria – Operation Spring Shield in an effort to protect civilians and end Syrian...

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Турция сбила два сирийских самолета в Идлибе

Турецкие истребители сбили два самолета Су-24 самолет ВВС Сирии в Идлибе. Оба пилота катапультировались и спасены.

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It appears so, according to ANNA.

 

[Gnarlycharlie]

The Rebels may have shot down one Turkish drone by mistake. Still unconfirmed...

It appears to me that SAA shot it down while the rebels on the ground mistook it for Syrian case there are claims by the SAA and absence of the video of the "Stinger" launch.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

It appears to me that SAA shot it down while the rebels on the ground mistook it for Syrian case there are claims by the SAA and absence of the video of the "Stinger" launch.

Well, there is that one:

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Though, having the Turks shooting down their own UAV would be rather embarrassing.

 

[Gnarlycharlie]

Well, there is that one:

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Though, having the Turks shooting down their own UAV would be rather embarrassing.

This one is older.

 

[Chazman]

The Rebels may have shot down one Turkish drone by mistake. Still unconfirmed...

And how would they have the capability of shooting something down. I sure hope that Turkey isn't giving them their Stinger knockoffs.

 

[BeNder]

Are they going to bite the Bear again?

 

[Faheka]

And how would they have the capability of shooting something down. I sure hope that Turkey isn't giving them their Stinger knockoffs.

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[Chazman]

Turkey Asks NATO to Join Its War Against Syria and Russia

Note: The events that led to this critical impasse were reported by me last night, and that report thus continues here, in order to provide…

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[Ivan le Fou]

Turkey Asks NATO to Join Its War Against Syria and Russia

Note: The events that led to this critical impasse were reported by me last night, and that report thus continues here, in order to provide…

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No thanks, but we can send nemipuka.

 

[Chazman]

No thanks, but we can send nemipuka.

Hillary would have already sent in the 82nd Airborne and trillions of dollars, and her Globalist friends would have cheered at how rich they were going to become, courtesy the American taxpayer and the blood of their sons.

If I'm not mistaken, Trump has already told Erdo in no uncertain terms, if you go into northern Syria, don't try to pull an Article 5, NATO has nothing to do with this.