Politics Syrian Civil War

[Gnarlycharlie]

Hillary would have already sent the 82nd Airborne and trillions of dollars and her Globalist friends would have cheered at how rich they were going to become courtesy the American taxpayer and the blood of their sons.

If I'm not mistaken, Trump has already told Erdo in no uncertain terms, if you go into northern Syria, don't try to pull an Article 5, NATO has nothing to do with this.

Yeah, but as far as I understand Erdogan isn't even trying to pull No Action Talk Only ground forces in Syria. They would most likely only hinder Turkish troops. What he want's is that sweet-sweet "Patriots" and maybe some more air force support cause mobile air defense seems to be one of Turkish army's soft spots. They only started to change their "Hawks" and "Herculeses" to HISAR medium-range and long range systems. Truly a bad moment to deal with somewhat capable air force with good mobile AA systems. At this point it's called being greedy, but if you ask me you actually can't be too ready and gotta do what you gotta do to win.

 

[Chazman]

Yeah, but as far as I understand Erdogan isn't even trying to pull No Action Talk Only ground forces in Syria. They would most likely only hinder Turkish troops. What he want's is that sweet-sweet "Patriots" and maybe some more air force support cause mobile air defense seems to be one of Turkish army's soft spots. They only started to change their "Hawks" and "Herculeses" to HISAR medium-range and long range systems. Truly a bad moment to deal with somewhat capable air force with good mobile AA systems. At this point it's called being greedy, but if you ask me you actually can't be too ready and gotta do what you gotta do to win.

Honestly, if Turkey started flying aggressive CAPs over Syria, there's not a lot the Syrians or Russians could do. Turkey would lose some aircraft though, mostly to SAM systems.

 

[Gnarlycharlie]

Honestly, if Turkey started flying aggressive CAPs over Syria, there's not a lot the Syrians or Russians could do. Turkey would lose some aircraft though, mostly to SAM systems/

Yeah, that is only to be expected.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Yeah, but as far as I understand Erdogan isn't even trying to pull No Action Talk Only ground forces in Syria. They would most likely only hinder Turkish troops. What he want's is that sweet-sweet "Patriots" and maybe some more air force support cause mobile air defense seems to be one of Turkish army's soft spots. They only started to change their "Hawks" and "Herculeses" to HISAR medium-range and long range systems. Truly a bad moment to deal with somewhat capable air force with good mobile AA systems. At this point it's called being greedy, but if you ask me you actually can't be too ready and gotta do what you gotta do to win.

"Send us Patriots until we get to use our S400.
Once our guys training on the Russian system is done you can f*ck off again."

 

[Faheka]

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[Chazman]

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[Dercius]

And within a few days you start to see again videos of Turkish attack helos downed inside Turkey by Kurds with some manpads they just bought in the bazaar. Exactly the same as last time Erdogan decided to play the toughguy in Syrian war.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Iran gives Turkey ultimatum to leave Syria or missile strikes will begin

Official Tehran demanded that Turkey immediately stop striking at the Syrian army, threatening to launch a large-scale missile attack on militants and the Turkish military without warning

bulgarianmilitary.com

 

[Chazman]

Iran gives Turkey ultimatum to leave Syria or missile strikes will begin

Official Tehran demanded that Turkey immediately stop striking at the Syrian army, threatening to launch a large-scale missile attack on militants and the Turkish military without warning

bulgarianmilitary.com

So the Russians take a step back and the Iranians take a step up. Should be interesting....

 

[morris]

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[berkut76]

Can Russia replenish Syrian AF losses? Is there enough of older birds, like Su-24s and Su25s in storage?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Considering what the rebels are known to do to prisoners and downed pilots (shooting at the crew of the Russian SU24 ambushed by a Turkish F16; Russian SU25 pilot who prefered blowing himself up with a grenade than get caught by rebels), it's better to either die in the crash or land anywhere but where the rebels are.

 

[morris]

Considering what the rebels are known to do to prisoners and downed pilots (shooting at the crew of the Russian SU24 ambushed by a Turkish F16; Russian SU25 pilot who prefered blowing himself up with a grenade than get caught by rebels), it's better to either die in the crash or land anywhere but where the rebels are.

Not only rebels but Turks as well, yesterday I posted video showing Turks torture captive Syrian soldier.

 

[tea-drinker]

Can Russia replenish Syrian AF losses? Is there enough of older birds, like Su-24s and Su25s in storage?

Maybe for Su-24,, based on Su-34 deliveries to RuAF:
On 10 June 2014, Russia1 TV reported a further delivery of Su-34s was made to the 559th Regiment at Morozovsk.[38] Another three aircraft were delivered on 18 July 2014.[39] 18 aircraft were delivered in 2014,[40][41] and 20 planned to be delivered in 2015.[42] It is intended to replace the Sukhoi Su-24 and the Tupolev Tu-22M3.[14]

How serviceable the old stuff is a bit of a guess, they hardly retired their best birds. If Syria loses 2 - 3 birds a day that well runs dry too.

 

[Chazman]

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[morris]

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[morris]

SAA inside Saraqib, Idlib

 

[morris]

The Syrian army regains control of the strategic city of Saraqib, east of Idlib. Night attack.

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