Politics Syrian Civil War

[Euroamerican]

I find all the crowing about the target "dying like a dog, crying and whimpering", to be rather unseemly.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

It is, indeed, and perhaps, unnecessary.

But humiliating that leader in such a way can have an interesting psychological impact. Showing ISIS fighters and their leaders as cowards is not that far from the truth in the end: using human shields, using kids as suicide bombers, hiding among refugees, dressing as women to sneak out, hitting soft targets, using and hiding behind the overbearing sensitivity of the West to paint themselves as victims, etc...

Unseemly in a formal and official speech? Maybe, but it is not as if these individuals deserved anything else.

 

[Chazman]

I find all the crowing about the target "dying like a dog, crying and whimpering", to be rather unseemly.

I find it very useful. Especially for his followers to hear or some teenager somewhere in the world who might consider idolizing him.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

WaPo...

UPDATED: Washington Post changes obituary to make Baghdadi ‘austere religious scholar’ instead of ‘terrorist-in-chief’ - Washington Examiner

The Washington Post changed the headline of its obituary of ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi from "terrorist-in-chief" to describe him as an “austere religious scholar.”U.S. forces killed Baghdadi Saturday after a successful raid on a compound in northern Syria.While many celebrated the death of...

www.washingtonexaminer.com

Austere religious scholar... "ok so, we have that guy who died... saying he was a terrorist would be offensive and islamophobic... let's go with austere religious scholar".. WTF?!

Also, during the press conference:
CNN: yeah but Obama announced bin Laden's death only 3 minutes after it happened.
CNBC: Trump thanked Russia first.

Must. Twist. News. Orange. Man. Bad.

 

[Fluff]

Apparently raid consisted of US Army Delta Force and US Army Rangers.

I believe general trump was also in attendance. Took the headshot too.

 

[muck]

Good riddance, and congratulations to the American forces involved.

I find it very useful. Especially for his followers to hear or some teenager somewhere in the world who might consider idolizing him.

Would you still find it useful if his followers got so pumped-up by all that crowing that they resolve to behead the next American they can find in order to "exact revenge"?

 

[Fluff]

Good riddance, and congratulations to the American forces involved.


Would you still find it useful if his followers got so pumped-up by all that crowing that they resolve to behead the next American they can find in order to "exact revenge"?

I think this difference of opinion shows the very different views we hold.

Us believes in retribution, deterrence and good or bad punishment.

I’m more with muck, mainly as I doubt said teenager will listen to trump, and as muck says, more likely to tip said youth into the camp of kill an American, which generally includes all westerners.

 

[Chazman]

Good riddance, and congratulations to the American forces involved.


Would you still find it useful if his followers got so pumped-up by all that crowing that they resolve to behead the next American they can find in order to "exact revenge"?

They already want to do that, don't you think? They might as well know how he died as a whimpering coward and the next guy in line will be next.

 

[muck]

They already want to do that, don't you think? They might as well know how he died as a whimpering coward and the next guy in line will be next.

Look, morally I couldn't care less.

In terms of risk assessment, however, my genuine opinion is this: Most of those subhumans who've been making our countries unsafe probably didn't even know Al Baghdadi. Under different circumstances, I reckon, they would've had done what Al Quaeda did in the wake of Bin Ladin's death: Pretend they didn't need to care about it, pretend his death didn't matter.

But now they've been given plenty of reason to care. Now it matters.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Yup, Nancy is pissed...

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[nemipuka_]

Congratulations to CIA and the Task Force for this sucksess. Sad to see Trump taking the credit for this great job and giving it to Russia just like that.

 

[Chazman]

Good Lord, did any of you even listen to 48 minute press conference? He spent a moment thanking Russia, Turkey, Iraq and the Kurds. He DID NOT give credit to Russia. LOL! That is the most ridiculous comment in this whole thread. The Russians were informed that US aircraft would be flying through airspace they controlled under the rules of the deconfliction agreement.

He did make many comments about how incredibly the US force performed as he was watching the mission in real time. All credit was given to the military and intelligence assets involved in the raid.

Furthermore, loads of intelligence was exploited at the site. I wouldn't be surprised if a few more d-bags get smoked soon.

 

[Chazman]

Yup, Nancy is pissed...

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In the press conference, Trump was asked if Pelosi was notified beforehand. He said no, he was concerned about leaks and OPSEC for a risky mission. I agree with that.

 

[Chazman]

Look, morally I couldn't care less.

In terms of risk assessment, however, my genuine opinion is this: Most of those subhumans who've been making our countries unsafe probably didn't even know Al Baghdadi. Under different circumstances, I reckon, they would've had done what Al Quaeda did in the wake of Bin Ladin's death: Pretend they didn't need to care about it, pretend his death didn't matter.

But now they've been given plenty of reason to care. Now it matters.

The West must always remain vigilant. But it's also useful for scumbags to know what their fate will be and that it won't be pretty.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

In the press conference, Trump was asked if Pelosi was notified beforehand. He said no, he was concerned about leaks and OPSEC for a risky mission. I agree with that.

That made me wonder, did she have to be notified anyway?

 

[Chazman]

That made me wonder, did she have to be notified anyway?

No requirement for that. In normal times, leaders would be notified as a courtesy. But these are not normal times and I honestly question the patriotism and trustworthiness of the current Dem leadership.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

No requirement for that. In normal times, leaders would be notified as a courtesy. But these are not normal times and I honestly question the patriotism and trustworthiness of the current Dem leadership.

That's what I was thinking, usually these operations are shrouded with a decent level of secrecy. I don't remember seeing any "non essential" individuals in the situation room during Neptune Spear.

 

[muck]

Sad to see Trump taking the credit for this great job

Like Obama did for Bin Laden, you mean?
The fact is, both were / are entitled to claiming at least some credit. A success like this is also the result of political decisions, at least some of which had to be correct.

 

[Chazman]

Next!

ISIS appoint new leader after al-Baghdadi killed in US raid in northern Syria

Abdullah Qardash, also known as Hajji Abdullah al-Afari, has reportedly been appointed the new leader of the terrorist cult

www.mirror.co.uk

He probably just threw his cell phone in the river! LOL!

 

[Musashi]

Another one bites the dust:

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