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Can anybody explain the reason for a massive increase of AfD voters in the last 12 months? Going from 10% to 19% is 90% more voters.
 
@Musashi

Much of that growth is owed to Eastern German voters, the reasons being structural. East Germany has lost 20% of its population since 1990, the brain drain creating somewhat of an echo chamber. The average East German is above median age, tends to be xenophobic and idealises the Socialist past. The AfD successfully snatched the image of being the "natural" representative of East Germany from its former owner, Die Linke (the successor of the regime party SED, which is on the verge of collapsing into obscurity at this point).

Sadly, it can't be denied that East Germans are predominantly against the government's pro-Ukraine policies. My personal theory is they subconsciously feel like they owe Russia. For fourty years they'd been told by the Russians that West Germany was the Nazi successor state and that they didn't bear the blame. The Russians consciously nourished their national pride and self-image as being very distinct from the people in West, so as to eradicate all wishes for reunification from their thoughts. They also made them hate America.

That's what's showing in the polls, at least to some extent.

But AfD has also been able to scoop up many protest voters. I'm not going to pretend that every decision taken by this administration has been bad (I'm certainly agreeing with their foreign policies and defence build-up, for instance), but their social and environmental policies are a clusterfuck of epic proportions. They're woke as hell, dangerously elitist and appear contemptuous of the wants and needs of the general population. They want to give children as young as 14 the right to change their gender, for example. They want to de-criminalise hit-and-runs.

Most notably, they've tried pushing through a law that would make it illegal within two years to operate gas or oil heating, forcing all home owners to buy an electric heat pump instead. Only the elderly or the poor were to be exempted. Nevermind the blatant injustice and infringing on people's property rights, their communication was a non-stop charade. The bill's chief author had to step down over a nepotism affair, the text had to be re-written over and over again until no one knew what it meant, and it was just the other day halted by the courts.

This administration gives of the impression of a bunch of bumbling fools who'll ride roughshod over this country no matter what to implement their woke agenda. AfD represents the antithesis to that agenda, so naturally people are flocking to them. Especially since the moderate right has been so thoroughly compromised. The CDU can't fill the role of opposition leader as they're seen as a weak compromise between the government and AfD … and the FDP is in the government. So these polls are also somewhat of a vote of no confidence.

The AfD's place in the polls is not sustainable, though. Even their honorary chairman admitted as much in a recent interview, saying that "our strength is merely the weakness of our rivals". He advised his party not to make a bid for chancellorship, as it wouldn't come to pass anyway.
 
Really???
In fairness, the media's shock over this is somewhat disingenuous. Local politics is a very different beast from national level politics in this country. The rule of thumb goes that in a municipal election you vote for the man and in a national election you vote for the party. There's not a whole lot of ideology involved, as their remit limits local administrations to tasks like town planning. As a matter of fact, the importance of political parties on this level has been shrinking for decades; non-affiliated mayors and councillors are rapidly becoming the new norm.

But I'm afraid to say the moderate right's "firewall" against AfD will fall. And I'm also afraid to say it's inevitable. Looking at what's happened in Sweden and Finland, it seems obvious to me that AfD will only grow if the other parties continue to treat them like some sort of transmittable disease. It's the "deplorables" all over again. My hope is they'll fall apart once having come to some power. Their predecessor in spirit, NPD, did do just that. During the oughts they fell as quickly as they'd risen over their low parliament attendance rates and abuse of allowances.

I reckon it'll be just the same with AfD. That party lacks functionaries with a work ethic.

Besides, as was even acknowledged by their own honorary chairman recently: AfD is made to be in opposition. They cannot govern, because that would make them a part of "the system". In government, they'd have to compromise. And that would be the end of them, robbing them of their special status. I mean, just check out how the ratings of the Finns Party have fallen since the election. First thing they did in order to be able to form a coalition with the Conservatives was agreeing to abandon their push for leaving the European Union. Didn't sit well with their constituents. Populists never get far in pluralistic parliamentary republics. They need a bipolar system like America's in order to thrive.
 
@muck

It’s not a very different situation around here on the other side of the Rhine river, the National Rally of Marine Le Pen that some are dying to see in power, has always been a party of opposition, dating way back to her father and his outrageous statements then. They are very good at criticizing but we’ve yet to see them govern the country so we don’t really know.

Personally I’d love to see a sane, reasonable right wing party in power. But the closer the AfD or its French equivalent gets somehow close to power on a local or national level the further they get from their original beliefs.

Anybody but the greens and socialists/commies in power, but with leaders like Macron and Olaf - hence supposedly center-right wing parties and what they have accomplished after a few years I’m nowhere optimistic. The former is one of the most opportunistic, pedantic President we’ve ever seen, while Olaf has apparently so little charisma, has the German greens at his throat and no real iron hand against Putin.

A shyte sandwich either way.
 

Italy’s double trouble: Soaring migration meets labor shortage​

Despite her campaign pledges, Italy’s Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has struggled to control a surge in migration. Due to the country’s growing labor shortages, her administration has been compelled to issue a larger number of work visas for migrants.

Just as King Canute failed to hold back the seas, so Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni has floundered in her efforts to stop the flow of migrants to Italy since she took office last October.

Despite pledges before last year’s national election that she would cut immigration, the number of people crossing the Mediterranean in a flotilla of often decrepit old boats has doubled over the past nine months.

Ms. Meloni has made it a priority to engage other nations in plans to block people from embarking on the perilous journey to Europe. In addition, bowing to pressure from the business lobby, which is traditionally close to Ms. Meloni’s right-wing bloc, the government has increased the number of migrants who can legally come to Italy for work as the population rapidly ages.

Mediterranean and Middle East countries met in Rome on Sunday to boost efforts to stem illegal migration flows, with Italy saying the aim is to help countries in Africa in order to reduce the impetus for migrants to reach Europe.

The meeting focused on building partnership for projects in sectors including agriculture, infrastructure and health, an Italian government statement said. The conference came just a week after the European Union signed a partnership deal with Tunisia, one of the hot spots for migrant departures, pledging up to 1 billion euros ($1.1 billion) in aid to combat human smugglers and help its battered economy.

“The government is clearly not delivering what it promised, but the ruling parties are still seen by their electorate as much more reassuring than the left on immigration, so they are not feeling pressure in the opinion polls,” said Mattia Diletti, a politics professor at Rome’s Sapienza University.
Pretty much Italy is the new north africa.
 
Any discussion of the universal income? aka communists.
 
Germany's Federal Supreme Court has just upheld the charges against 22 people arrested on 8 December 2022 for plotting to overthrow the government, and extended their pre-trial detention beyond 6 months (which is highly unusual in Germany and indicative of overwhelming evidence). 20 suspects have been charged with attempted high treason, 19 with conspiracy to commit crimes against life. The QAnon-inspired extremists, led by Heinrich XIII Prince Reuß, planned to storm the Reichstag building on or after 8 December and kidnap or kill members of government. Reuß's castle at Lobenstein was supposed to become the seat of a new government. The conspirators also include a number of active or retired members of the military and police, most notably retired Lieutenant Colonel Ruediger von Pescatore, a former German Army parachute infantry battalion commander dubbed Reuß's "military chief". Investigators suspect that the conspirators received encouragement or aid from the government of the Russian Federation through Reuß's girlfriend, a Russian national with well-established political connections.

(summarised after court order AK 21-28/23)
 
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I did a bit of digging into these two and good God, man, what an epic freak show. Prince Reuß has been a Reichsbürger (i.e. a "sovereign citizen") for a couple of years. In mid-2022, he sent letters to all 6,000 inhabitants of Lobenstein to "inform" them that the Federal Republic of Germany "does not exist and never has", and that they ought to apply for a "passport of the German Reich" in his castle, provided the Russian embassy (presumably because Lobenstein lay in the Russian zone of occupation?) would vouch for their "germanic descent". He's got also a bit of an ego-problem, claiming descent from the last Prince Regnant of Reuß (deposed in 1918) although he actually belongs to a cadet line.

Von Pescatore is even more of a freak – and an actual career criminal. In the early 1990s, he was reprimanded and fined for ordering a Huey to take him from his garrison to his home just because he was late for opera. In 1996, he was handed two years behind bars for an embezzlement scheme against the military spanning over more than three years. The good Colonel had withheld assault rifles left over from the East German National People's Army and sold them for profit. Following his discharge, von Pescatore migrated to Brazil were he did all kinds of jobs to stay afloat, most notably he sold homoepathics to German expats. He also ran a blog ranting against the free masons.

This is why I hate extremists. What makes people as retarded and absurd as these two clowns think they can run a country? F***. This is not to say that they weren't dangerous, by the way. Several of the conspirators legally owned firearms, and one of their accomplices was a licenced arms dealer with access to some 200 semi-automatic weapons and personal gear like helmets. They really did mean business.

Even though they probably didn't exactly know what their business was.
 
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F*** Antifa! They're terrorists, as simple as that.
But calling AfD "patriotic" is a bit of a stretch. They're so "patriotic" they'd sell us out to the Russians. F*** them.
 
F*** Antifa! They're terrorists, as simple as that.
But calling AfD "patriotic" is a bit of a stretch. They're so "patriotic" they'd sell us out to the Russians. F*** them.
I haven't read this specific article. I read about this incident on Twatter and I wanted to find an article that would show that guy's injuries. It was just one of a few that did. I know that AfD is not patriotic but pro-Russian.
Most sources say that guy was beaten up by migrants rather than Antifa.
If it was not the case, somebody just wants to stir up the sh1t.
 
@muck

It’s not a very different situation around here on the other side of the Rhine river, the National Rally of Marine Le Pen that some are dying to see in power, has always been a party of opposition, dating way back to her father and his outrageous statements then. They are very good at criticizing but we’ve yet to see them govern the country so we don’t really know.

Personally I’d love to see a sane, reasonable right wing party in power. But the closer the AfD or its French equivalent gets somehow close to power on a local or national level the further they get from their original beliefs.

Anybody but the greens and socialists/commies in power, but with leaders like Macron and Olaf - hence supposedly center-right wing parties and what they have accomplished after a few years I’m nowhere optimistic. The former is one of the most opportunistic, pedantic President we’ve ever seen, while Olaf has apparently so little charisma, has the German greens at his throat and no real iron hand against Putin.

A shyte sandwich either way.
You are wrong, if they come to power they will be like Orban and Fidesz ( Bolsanaro, Trump, Lula, etc) I don't expect them to be stupid to govern, pass populist laws, incite, create an enemy image, and kiss the asses of the Russians and Chinese
 
As we say here, "in this fight, every punch goes to the right place."
 
You are wrong, if they come to power they will be like Orban and Fidesz ( Bolsanaro, Trump, Lula, etc) I don't expect them to be stupid to govern, pass populist laws, incite, create an enemy image, and kiss the asses of the Russians and Chinese

Then I don’t want them any close to power any soon.

On what point am I wrong however?
 
In lack of a reply, I take it you don’t have anything to back up on what point I am wrong « Hyriu2.0 »
 
As of today, Germany faces a constitutional crisis and the potential collapse of the government coalition.

The highest German court has just declared last year's federal budget unconstitutional. In order to avoid breaking the constitutional debt ceiling – a point dear and near to the Liberal Party, a centre-right appendix of this left-leaning government –, the Scholz administration had rededicated for climate change action funds originally granted to soften the economic ripples caused by the Covid pandemic. In doing so, they violated the balance of powers (as parliament has exclusive fiscal authority in Germany).

The ruling has created a hole in the federal budget which, realistically speaking, cannot be plugged. That's because the Liberals, who're already dying an agonising death as the junior partner of a coalition in which they don't fit, will never stand for the debt ceiling to be ignored. The coalition might very well collapse now, in fact some 26 Liberal MPs have already penned a letter of no-confidence.

There are also major implications for Germany's tentative military revitalisation efforts. The Social Democrats and Greens will never prioritise defence over social issues or climate change, and (as mentioned) the Liberals will never increase the defence budget by way of incurring new debts.
 

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