Politics For all the anti vaxxers

[Mordoror]

Just to remind a few facts that are happening right now (or happened the past 2018 year)

Measle outbreak right now in the Samoa; 53 deaths, mostly under 5 kids, ongoing right now

A Measles Outbreak in Samoa Has Killed 53 People and Infected 2% of the Population

Vaccine coverage in the small nation is lacking, partially attributable to two vaccine-related deaths

time.com

DRC
major measle outbreak 5000 deads

DR Congo measles: Nearly 5,000 dead in major outbreak

Almost 250,000 people in the Democratic Republic of Congo are thought to have been infected in 2019.

www.bbc.com

Whooping cough cases x4 in UK

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Pediatric tetanus coming back :

Unvaccinated Oregon Boy Is Diagnosed with Tetanus, the State's 1st Child Case in 30 Years

An unvaccinated child fell down, and received the first diagnosis of tetanus in a child in Oregon in over 30 years.

www.livescience.com

 

[Jake84]

@Mordoror, my doctor suggested I should get the basic flu shot, I told him I was still « young enough » only to have him replies that a patient didn’t get the shot, caught the flu, and some day ran to the bus on his way to work to die from a heart attack.

The anti vaxxers thing started when some parents believed the various vaccine would make their kids autistic, borderline and schizophrenic. Why educate the mob?

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Measles Blamed for More than 50 Deaths in Samoa

The government of Samoa announced on Monday that five more children had died within the past day from measles. That raises the number of measles deaths on the Pacific island nation to 53 since late October. Forty-eight of the victims were children.

learningenglish.voanews.com

French media are talking about a New Zelander tourist being the cause of the outbreak.

Samoa : un touriste provoque une épidémie de rougeole, 60 morts

Selon France Inter, un Néo-Zélandais aurait apporté le virus auprès d'une population dont seul un tiers est vacciné. Les enfants sont les premières victimes.

www.lepoint.fr

 

[primer]

We have had a high proportional number of cases. Anti vaxers and it was a thing of the past mentality.

 

[TheKiwi]

French media are talking about a New Zelander tourist being the cause of the outbreak.

Almost certainly correct. We have a LOT of f***king dumbasses who think that they and their kids don't need vaccinations because "corporatshuns are stealing our body juices".

 

[Mordoror]

@Mordoror, my doctor suggested I should get the basic flu shot, I told him I was still « young enough » only to have him replies that a patient didn’t get the shot, caught the flu, and some day ran to the bus on his way to work to die from a heart attack.

The anti vaxxers thing started when some parents believed the various vaccine would make their kids autistic, borderline and schizophrenic. Why educate the mob?

It's basically a risk vs benefit balance. You are young, you are not among the risky population (kids and above 65y).
Yet flu can indeed kill, especialy if you are pushing the body like in running or exhausting activity. On the other hand flu vaccine is harmless except that some develop a very trensient weak flu like illness.

As for the antivaxxers if they fear vaccines how does it comes they dont fear standard medication. Paracetamol can kill you in a very nasty way. Alternate medicines can be harmful too (essential oil for example)
And this is happening more often than with vaccines. Way more....

The issue is that these morons are not only putting themselves at risk but also others (elders, immunocompromised, toddlers, pregnant women, isolated populations like in the Samoan case)

Time in some cases to bring back quarantine. Or mandatory vaccine to travel (like for the yellow fever)
Wait, if we do that, i hear the screams "muh liberty"

 

[riderboy]

I don't understand f*cking around with deadly infectious diseases. But that's just me, I'm certainly no social justice warrior.

 

[TheKiwi]

There is a very strong linkage locally between the anti-vaxxer community and those promoting homeopathy, crystal healing, healing magnets, anti-cancer water and other such wu-woo cures.

 

[Mordoror]

I knew the situation was dire but not to such point

Measles

WHO fact sheet on measles providing key facts and information on signs and symptoms, who is at risk, transmission, treatment, prevention and WHO's work on in this area.

www.who.int

110 000 death of measle in 2017 when a 30y old vaccine, cheap, affordable safe exists


Not limited to third world (see the 2019 NYC outbreak)

FAQ: Children's Vaccines

WebMD provides answers to common questions about children's vaccines, including when they should be given and possible side effects.

www.webmd.com