Politics The future of European defence strategy & manufacturing

[PEMM]

Next week at the local Ikea - prefab barracks.

Some kind of container barracks are necessary as interim solution if countries want to increase training numbers. Unless they expect to wait several years for the building projects to be completed.

 

[Hiryu2.0]

The Triumph of the Operator

GWOT, Signalgate, and the Cult of the Operator making National Security Policy

secretaryrofdefenserock.substack.com

 

[Mike1976]

The Triumph of the Operator

GWOT, Signalgate, and the Cult of the Operator making National Security Policy

secretaryrofdefenserock.substack.com

What does this have to do with European defence strategy or manufacturing?

There are loads of other threads you could have posted this in that are about what the US is doing.

 

[Picanha]

ISAR Aerospace launched its first rocket from Europe I put it here because it surely can be used to quickly launch satellites or maybe even help deploy IRIS².

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Then regarding the lack of stealth fighters, this can be solved in interim by using long range drones.

Dassault has Neuron for example which navigate by themselves and are expendable.

Put in ASMPs for attack or even guided bombs as it's more expendable than a plane.

Then we need the Dronewall. Russia must lose exponentially more soldiers than we do not.

An area about 20km deep where everything gets hunted down by AI drones.

Good luck to cover that.

Then a wide spread AD shield reaching far into Russia to supress any aerial attacks and protect the Dronewall.

 

[Mike1976]

Finnish company Patria invests €40 million to double armored vehicle production as part of broader development strategy

Finnish company Patria invests €40 million to double armored vehicle production as part of broader development strategy

armyrecognition.com

 

[Mike1976]

Europe to make key decisions on future HYDEF interceptor missile program to counter hypersonic threats

Europe to make key decisions on future HYDEF interceptor missile program to counter hypersonic threats

armyrecognition.com

 

[Mike1976]

IAG starts production of armored vehicles in Bulgaria to strengthen European defense industry capabilities

IAG starts production of armored vehicles in Bulgaria to strengthen European defense industry capabilities

armyrecognition.com

 

[skaw]

ISAR Aerospace launched its first rocket from Europe I put it here because it surely can be used to quickly launch satellites or maybe even help deploy IRIS².

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Then regarding the lack of stealth fighters, this can be solved in interim by using long range drones.

Dassault has Neuron for example which navigate by themselves and are expendable.

Put in ASMPs for attack or even guided bombs as it's more expendable than a plane.

Then we need the Dronewall. Russia must lose exponentially more soldiers than we do not.

An area about 20km deep where everything gets hunted down by AI drones.

Good luck to cover that.

Then a wide spread AD shield reaching far into Russia to supress any aerial attacks and protect the Dronewall.

Just a small notion for those who are interested:

The first flight is planned for tomorrow, March 30th 12:15 (UTC+1)

...at least if the weather allows it this time. Can be watched live thanks to the guys from NASASpaceFlight:

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[Picanha]

Thanks for the update and link skaw!

 

[LimaCharles]

Some kind of container barracks are necessary as interim solution if countries want to increase training numbers. Unless they expect to wait several years for the building projects to be completed.

It's been done before in both Iraq and Afghanistan. Plus it's prefab conditions makes assembly/disassembly more ergonomic for all the trades that would be needed to hook up the utilities.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Just a small notion for those who are interested:

The first flight is planned for tomorrow, March 30th 12:15 (UTC+1)

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Liftoff and 40sec flight.

Still provided massive amounts of data for Isar Aerospace to learn and improve from.

 

[skaw]

Falt ned kort tid etter historisk oppskytning

Det er første gang en rakett av denne typen blir skutt opp fra norsk jord.

www.vg.no

Yep. From what can be seen in this Video from a Norwegian newspaper the rocket seems to have crashed into water (notice the vapor splashing and parts of infrastructure in front of it) so probably the pad infrastructure will be mostly intact. Juliana Metzler, mission manager at Isar Aerospace pointed out during the live stream that Rocket No. 2 & 3 are already being built atm.

so yeah...hopfully not so much of a setback. Lift off and tower separation worked like a charm but soon after that the engines and with them the whole rocket started wiggeling until the flip. At least the engines cut off at that point....maybe due to FTS or internal flight control system.

But one thing is for sure...The data from this first flight will most likely help them for the next missions and getting that wiggeling under control.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

It also was the first test launch, it is not that surprising it didn't end up being a complete success.

 

[skaw]

Exactly.

As Rocket Factory Augsburg (another German startup) showed in last august, it could go much worse.

Rocket engine explodes during test at Shetland spaceport

The test was carried out by a German firm who hope to launch the UK's first vertical rocket into orbit.

www.bbc.com

But nevertheless, every start is a success and an enrichment for the future and i am very happy to see so many startups, including European ones, in this sector.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

With some luck it is nothing more than a Proton-syndrome with a yaw control being screw upside down.

 

[Mike1976]

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[LimaCharles]

You can definitely rearm Europe without the USA. However it takes a will that isn't from the US, and using your own money, material, and troops that is also not from the US.

 

[Picanha]

France is developing a new Hypersonic Antiradiation missile based on the RJ10 should be ready by 2030 to be used with Rafale F5 and clear the path for the new ASN4G nuclear tipped standoff weapon.

Works with Neuron and probably Airbus expendable wingman.

This could be the stop gap solution until FCAS arrives.

 

[Mike1976]

Greenies are getting the rearmament they all of a sudden wanted. One slight catch ...

Defensie wil uitzondering op milieuregels om te groeien 'voor het vaderland'

Er moeten niet alleen tienduizenden militairen bij komen, maar die mensen moeten ook ergens wonen en trainen, zegt staatssecretaris Tuinman.

nos.nl

Dutch MoD wants exception to environmental rules to grow 'for the fatherland'

The cabinet is working on a law that will allow the MoD to obtain exceptions to environmental regulations. This should allow the armed forces to grow and better prepare for the defence of the Netherlands and its NATO allies. This concerns the so-called Readiness Act.

Due to the changed situation in Europe and the world, Defence wants to expand considerably in the coming years. Not only will tens of thousands of soldiers need to be added, but these people will also need to live and train somewhere. State Secretary Tuinman told the NOS about this: "This law ensures that in the grey area between war and peace that we are currently in, Defence has the space to, for example, set up barracks to be able to practice."

The exceptions concern, for example, noise pollution or environmental permits that are required to be allowed to build and practice in certain areas - regulations that are currently hindering the growth of Defence. For example, you need a noise permit to shoot. Many barracks are located near a nature reserve and training with large equipment also means CO2 emissions.

With this law, the construction of barracks or flying fighter jets would be seen as a greater social interest than, for example, environmental standards or noise pollution.

Energy label X, Y or Z
After years of cutbacks, the buildings are in a poor state. "They are really falling apart," says the State Secretary. "In fact, we have not done the maintenance that is necessary to keep buildings up to date over the past 25 years." He is referring to buildings with energy label X, Y or Z, problems with fire safety, mould and leaks.

Defence estimates that it will take about fifteen years to eliminate all the overdue maintenance. And then buildings also have to be added to accommodate the new employees. Tuinman writes in a letter to the House today that, given the geopolitical situation, he wants to accelerate these construction plans.

He has the money for that: this cabinet is investing hundreds of millions in the growth of Defence. But what Tuinman says he is mainly struggling with are the permits. Given the "urgency", he sees the Readiness Act as one of the instruments to make that growth possible.
Our way of life

Earlier, the cabinet wrote that "the responsibilities and social tasks of Defence are not comparable to other sectors in the Netherlands". Defence must therefore be at the front of the queue. The State Secretary emphasises that he will not simply set aside all the rules and that he will take into account the importance of a safe and healthy living environment.

But Tuinman acknowledges that there will be consequences for people. "We will undertake more activities, at more different locations. And in general, that means a little more inconvenience for the people in the region", according to the State Secretary. "A side note is that we are doing it for ourselves, for the fatherland. And we may have to accept a little more inconvenience to protect our way of life."

The bill must be completed in a few weeks. Then it must become clear which legal agreements will be made and what exactly the environmental exceptions are that will fall under this law.

 

[Mark Sman]

Exactly.

As Rocket Factory Augsburg (another German startup) showed in last august, it could go much worse.

Rocket engine explodes during test at Shetland spaceport

The test was carried out by a German firm who hope to launch the UK's first vertical rocket into orbit.

www.bbc.com

But nevertheless, every start is a success and an enrichment for the future and i am very happy to see so many startups, including European ones, in this sector.

Meh, wouldn't worry. If you are going to test rockets some of them will explode. If that wasn't a thing we wouldn't test them in the first place. Cost of doing business.