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One from Azeri side but important note about power or better of UAV munnition>

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UPDATE: https://tass.com/world/1206535

ANKARA, September 29. /TASS/. Turkey denies reports its F-16 fighter, while staying in Azerbaijan's airspace, shot down a Sukhoi-25 fighter-bomber of the Armenian Air Force, Bloomberg quoted the chief of the Turkish president's public relation office, Fahrettin Altun, as saying.
 
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A nice reading summarizes the conflict from Azerbaijani point of view.

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"I see that some people in the West express their support for Armenia purely because Armenia is a "Christian" country and Azerbaijan is a "Muslim" country.

In fact, of course, everything is much more complicated. In this conflict, neither religion nor ethnicity plays any role.

First of all, both countries are secular and none of the country have an official religion. Armenia is tacitly supported by Muslim Iran and Lebanon, as well as Christian Russia, while Azerbaijan is supported by Muslim Turkey and Pakistan, Israel and Christian countries like Ukraine and Italy. At least from this one you can understand that the conflict has no religious connotation.

Then some people say that not only Azerbaijan has a conflict with Armenia, but also Turkey doesn't have good relationship with Armenia. Both Azerbaijan and Turkey are mainly turkic countries, and here the factor of ethnic conflict allegedly enters, which is also not the case. The Azerbaijani army consists of Azerbaijani citizens of different nationalities. One of the famous heroes of the Karabakh war is a Jew and a monument to him was erected in Baku. While countries as Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan, which are Turkic countries, are the official military allies of Armenia.

The conflict is purely territorial and the war is taking place exclusively on the territory of Azerbaijan. The main motivation for the war among Azerbaijanis is to return home. 30 years ago, Azerbaijanis were driven out of their homes and they want to return home. The whole world recognized and recognizes Karabakh as the territory of Azerbaijan. Armenia itself, having entered the UN, recognized the territorial integrity of Azerbaijan.

If you are in doubt about the words mentioned here, we advise you to read various articles on this topic from all sides and draw your own conclusions."

Unfortunately, this type of conflict is a "zero sum" / winner takes all type. It cannot be resolved through negotiations as there is no ground to compromise. Despite overwhelming qualitative edge over opposition, Azeri military performance has been dismal in every encounter for three decades already.

Also, Azeris can forget about winning PR war as well. Having Turkey in Azeri's corner is actually "toxic". Also, Russian propaganda machine is already in full swing and the same folks who slandered Ukrainians and just recently Belarus opposition are already embedded within Armenian political and military structure. Russia Today conglomerate is run by an ethnic Armenian "power couple", and it has unlimited resources.

Things just don't look good for Azeris at the moment.
 
So 3rd day and still no significant (if any) success for Azerbaijan? It looks to me that fighting is stil on first layer of defense.

Unfortunately, this type of conflict is a "zero sum" / winner takes all type. It cannot be resolved through negotiations as there is no ground to compromise. Despite overwhelming qualitative edge over opposition, Azeri military performance has been dismal in every encounter for three decades already.

Not surprising considering Armenia has had years to prepare their defences and the balance of forces isn't massively in Azerbaijan's favour to offset that. Attacking fixed positions without having suppressed enemy artillery and anti tank positions first is suicidal.
 
Misterious crates with manpads showing up in turkish kurdistan in 3...2...1... record sales of truck canvas tarp in Iran, and more trucks on the Iranian Armenian border crossings than in a german autobahn.
If Azeris couldnt win this one on their own, one of the worst ideas they could come up with was openly calling the turks on their side. As everyone kind of knows this days, "Turkish help" comes with "Turkish enemies", and its not like they are lacking the later this days.
Just my 2c

Anyone reliable has confirmed the downing of the armenian plane by the turkish airforce?? Huge development if happens to be true...echoes of big G word not liked by Erdo intensifying
 
Acctualy I thing that Azers do have massive advantage in both quantity and quality and also important to note is that they have decided time and place to fight. We still didn't saw some of their asset, such as T90 but most of other equipment is in fight. It seems that the biggest problem for Armenia is air defense.
 
Not surprising considering Armenia has had years to prepare their defences and the balance of forces isn't massively in Azerbaijan's favour to offset that. Attacking fixed positions without having suppressed enemy artillery and anti tank positions first is suicidal.

Where is Azeri's airforce? This has been my question since July's confrontation. Azerbaijan's defense budget I think it's about the same as the whole government budget of Armenia.
 
Misterious crates with manpads showing up in turkish kurdistan in 3...2...1... record sales of truck canvas tarp in Iran, and more trucks on the Iranian Armenian border crossings than in a german autobahn.
If Azeris couldnt win this one on their own, one of the worst ideas they could come up with was openly calling the turks on their side. As everyone kind of knows this days, "Turkish help" comes with "Turkish enemies", and its not like they are lacking the later this days.
Just my 2c

Anyone reliable has confirmed the downing of the armenian plane by the turkish airforce?? Huge development if happens to be true...echoes of big G word not liked by Erdo intensifying

Has been denied already. Armenia wants to openly drag Russia into the war without formally asking the latter for military intervention.
 
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Azeris have significant advantage in economic, manpower and weapons. They for sure can defeat Armenians, with lots of blood and losses but they can. However, this war will never be Armenian-Azerbaijan only and now only god know what scale will this war became.
 
Unfortunately, this type of conflict is a "zero sum" / winner takes all type. It cannot be resolved through negotiations as there is no ground to compromise. Despite overwhelming qualitative edge over opposition, Azeri military performance has been dismal in every encounter for three decades already.

Also, Azeris can forget about winning PR war as well. Having Turkey in Azeri's corner is actually "toxic". Also, Russian propaganda machine is already in full swing and the same folks who slandered Ukrainians and just recently Belarus opposition are already embedded within Armenian political and military structure. Russia Today conglomerate is run by an ethnic Armenian "power couple", and it has unlimited resources.

Things just don't look good for Azeris at the moment.
All the problems started after the Soviet authorities decided to cede an Armenian-majority territory to Azerbaijan, using the famous Roman divide & conquer tactics. If it had not happened, today's issues would not have existed.
Speaking of Nakhchivan, an Azerbaijani enclave, its percentage of an Armenian population went down from 44.7% in 1829 to literally zero now. Ethnic Armenians are scared of living there. Anything Armenian tends to be destroyed, including people's graves.

These two articles will help our forum users understand how batsh1t crazy Azerbaijanis are:

 
All the problems started after the Soviet authorities decided to cede an Armenian-majority territory to Azerbaijan, using the famous Roman divide & conquer tactics. If it had not happened, today's issues would not have existed.
Speaking of Nakhchivan, an Azerbaijani enclave, its percentage of an Armenian population went down from 44.7% in 1829 to literally zero now. Ethnic Armenians are scared of living there. Anything Armenian tends to be destroyed, including people's graves.

These two articles will help our forum users understand how batsh1t crazy Azerbaijanis are:


And the Hungarian government released the killer, who is celebrated at home as a hero. (He was immediately pardoned, almost immediately, when he got off the plane.)
 
All the problems started after the Soviet authorities decided to cede an Armenian-majority territory to Azerbaijan, using the famous Roman divide & conquer tactics. If it had not happened, today's issues would not have existed.
Speaking of Nakhchivan, an Azerbaijani enclave, its percentage of an Armenian population went down from 44.7% in 1829 to literally zero now. Ethnic Armenians are scared of living there. Anything Armenian tends to be destroyed, including people's graves.

These two articles will help our forum users understand how batsh1t crazy Azerbaijanis are:


Yep, that's why I heard Russian lawmaker yesterday stating that since all these problems started when the Soviet Union collapsed the best way to fix them is to be re-built the Soviet Union or maybe the whole Russian empire. Whoever is going to conquer this region is going to ethnically cleanse it.

The number of Azeri refugees from the areas lost during 1991-1994 war is staggering and for political purposes, the State of Azerbaijan didn't assimilate them properly since that time.
 
Based on footage they seem to be degrading Armenia's air defence with UAVs first. If they were to fly jets straight into Armenian airspace it would be a Turkey shoot as I don't think they have the means to electronically suppress radar.

Also, we haven't heard anything about Special Forces operations either. Perhaps too early, but Azerbaijan invested a lot in SF training and equipment.
 
And the Hungarian government released the killer, who is celebrated at home as a hero. (He was immediately pardoned, almost immediately, when he got off the plane.)
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As part of the ongoing investigation into the “Azerbaijani Laundromat“—a nearly $3 billion slush fund tied to Azerbaijan’s ruling elite and used to buy influence around the world—Hungarian investigative journalism NGO Átlátszó.hu revealed that the Budapest bank account belonged to an offshore company owned by the son of an influential Azerbaijani politician.

According to the report, more than $7 million was transferred to the account in 2012 right around the time the Hungarian government struck its deal with Azerbaijani authorities, allowing for Safarov’s extradition. The offshore company has since been closed.

 
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