Politics Situation in Venezuela (Coup in process)

[Bombardier]

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[TIZER]

there is no need for civil war, that moron with the name maduro needs to step out
it was the same in syria , but no , assad wanna be president for life

since when was it your place or America's place to decide it's US sanctions that are causing the bulk of misery in Venezuela ... that's what happens when you dare to have your own foreign policy, and when Ukraine ditches the bandera/Hitler nonsense only then will i take Ukraine serious, in Scotland we hate all hate nazi sh*t

are you happy i didn't want to post in this section but i had to counter this nonsense/propaganda

 

[Chazman]

America needs to take it's own advice and stop interfering in other countries democracies it's been a ongoing process by America for over 5 decades, yet cry like bitches because Russian supposedly done to America what America has been doing for decades .... dry your eyes and move on

I guess as long as the Russians and Cubans are calling the shots, all should go well.

 

[bfc1001]

I guess as long as the Russians and Cubans are calling the shots, all should go well.

Do you think the Russians / Cubans have a long term plan ? Wait a minute , I've heard this story before.

 

[Chazman]

Do you think the Russians / Cubans have a long term plan ? Wait a minute , I've heard this story before.

I suppose you're guess is as good as mine. The Russians would like to support disruptions in the Americas, especially on the US's doorstep. The Cubans need to support their Commie dictator brothers. I wish the Venezuelan people well, but they've gotten what they asked for. Beyond not taking anything off the table as a message to Cuba and Russia, I have no desire to see the 82nd Airborne take down the Venezuelan government. And that's for many reasons.

Even under a different government and all things being perfect, it will take decades to unravel the clusterfuck that Socialism has caused there.

 

[bfc1001]

I suppose you're guess is as good as mine. The Russians would like to support disruptions in the Americas, especially on the US's doorstep. The Cubans need to support their Commie dictator brothers. I wish the Venezuelan people well, but they've gotten what they asked for. Beyond not taking anything off the table as a message to Cuba and Russia, I have no desire to see the 82nd Airborne take down the Venezuelan government. And that's for many reasons.

Even under a different government and all things being perfect, it will take decades to unravel the clusterfuck that Socialism has caused there.

I've heard they ve been eating rats ! On another note

Hezbollah Is in Venezuela to Stay

Regime change in Caracas won’t change the country’s problematic relationship with the terrorist group.

foreignpolicy.com

Iran's down there too .

 

[Chazman]

I've heard they ve been eating rats ! On another note

Hezbollah Is in Venezuela to Stay

Regime change in Caracas won’t change the country’s problematic relationship with the terrorist group.

foreignpolicy.com

Iran's down there too .

Yup, basically every global bad guy who wants to stick their thumb in Uncle Sam's eye. Good thing the southern border is so secure. Oh wait.....

 

[TIZER]

I guess as long as the Russians and Cubans are calling the shots, all should go well.

Russia saw what America's interventions were like like Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Iraq need i go on .. everything you get involved in you make it a hundred times worse ... sometimes countries need to be defended from a global bully like America ... neither South America or Venezuela belongs to America

 

[Chazman]

Russia saw what America's interventions were like like Libya, Syria, Ukraine, Iraq need i go on .. everything you get involved in you make it a hundred times worse ... sometimes countries need to be defended from a global bully like America ... neither South America or Venezuela belongs to America

Who does South America and Venezuela belong to then? You're saying that Russia and Cuba and Iran and China are simply being altruistic? I'll get my popcorn and eagerly wait for your reply.

 

[TIZER]

Who does South America and Venezuela belong to then? You're saying that Russia and Cuba and Iran and China are simply being altruistic? I'll get my popcorn and eagerly wait for your reply.

South America belongs to South Americans and it sure as hell does not belong to America ... you cause nothing but chaos and mayhem then cry like bitches when they try to come to America ... it's the consequences of America's actions in South America

and it's up to said governments of south Americans who they decide to do business with ... and after the actions of the CIA and NSA ... you have no right to say who can be trusted or not ... clearly America cannot be trusted after uploading malware to our power grids no wonder Macron labelled America to be our enemy

 

[Chazman]

South America belongs to South Americans and it sure as hell does not belong to America ... you cause nothing but chaos and mayhem then cry like bitches when they try to come to America ... it's the consequences of America's actions in South America

Exactly! The South Americans! I'm sure you'll press for the Cubans/Russians/Chinese/Iranians/etc., to leave then. Or....were they invited in by the Venezuelan dictators, who are South American and therefore belong there. So complicated.....

 

[Chazman]

South America belongs to South Americans and it sure as hell does not belong to America ... you cause nothing but chaos and mayhem then cry like bitches when they try to come to America ... it's the consequences of America's actions in South America

and it's up to said governments of south Americans who they decide to do business with ... and after the actions of the CIA and NSA ... you have no right to say who can be trusted or not ... clearly America cannot be trusted after uploading malware to our power grids no wonder Macron labelled America to be our enemy

Oh, you added more since I responded. Exactly, it's up to the said governments who to invite in. Seems like you have no issue with that...unless those invited are American. You are entitled to that opinion. Personally, I feel for the Venezuelan people, but they made their choices and have to deal with them. It's obvious many Venezuelans who aren't on the corrupt payroll are unhappy, suffering and hungry. I wish them luck. As I mentioned earlier, I have no desire to see US forces there, I am actually against it - even though you keep stating the opposite.


I also figure at some point the PEOPLE will want freedom enough to get rid of Maduro. I also expect they'll remember what the Russians and Cubans did to prolong their suffering. And have no doubt, Putin is calling the shots in Venezuela right now, not Maduro.

 

[TIZER]

Oh, you added more since I responded. Exactly, it's up to the said governments who to invite in. Seems like you have no issue with that...unless those invited are American. You are entitled to that opinion. Personally, I feel for the Venezuelan people, but they made their choices and have to deal with them. It's obvious many Venezuelans who aren't on the corrupt payroll are unhappy, suffering and hungry. I wish them luck. As I mentioned earlier, I have no desire to see US forces there, I am actually against it - even though you keep stating the opposite.


I also figure at some point the PEOPLE will want freedom enough to get rid of Maduro. I also expect they'll remember what the Russians and Cubans did to prolong their suffering. And have no doubt, Putin is calling the shots in Venezuela right now, not Maduro.

Chavez and Maduro got into power because the right were mega corrupt siphoning off billions from all the oil money into there bank accounts whilst the rest of the populace lived in abject poverty

 

[Chazman]

Chavez and Maduro got into power because the right were mega corrupt siphoning off billions from all the oil money into there bank accounts whilst the rest of the populace lived in abject poverty

LOL! Yes, and they sure improved things, didn't they. Trying hard to take this conversation seriously.

 

[colin traveller]

..........And the elected American Hater still continues with her Anti American Stance ..

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[Chazman]

..........And the elected American Hater still continues with her Anti American Stance ..

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There is not an issue where this woman does not take an anti-American stance. Ironic because, America took her and her family in and gave her a beautiful and safe life from the violent shithole her people created for themselves.

 

[Fred333]

The problem with Venezuela is similar to the one in Syria in one important respect: Maduro's system sucks, but the replacement Guaido will probably not make things better either. Just replacing Putin's puppet typhoid with US puppet's Guaido's neoliberal cholera. None will benefit the common people.

 

[colin traveller]

She is a ignorant ungrateful bitch .. And for the Party that she represents .. there Hypocrisy is over whelming .. they give a pass to a blatent race baiter whilst they still like to accuse Trump as a racist ... ..

The best move the Admin should do is revoke her citizenship and deport her and her family back to Somalia .

 

[Chazman]

The problem with Venezuela is similar to the one in Syria in one important respect: Maduro's system sucks, but the replacement Guaido will probably not make things better either. Just replacing Putin's puppet typhoid with US puppet's Guaido's neoliberal cholera. None will benefit the common people.

Agreed. Venezuela is screwed. Even under the best circumstances, it will take decades to fix, if ever. What you don't want is an unstable country with a civil war being used by proxies, ie a western hemisphere Syria.

 

[TIZER]

LOL! Yes, and they sure improved things, didn't they. Trying hard to take this conversation seriously.

well the working class seem to think so .... guado or what ever you call him gets his support from the rich and the middle class in Venezuela he is just a puppet of the USA much like Yats was in Ukraine ... the working class outnumbers the other two groups so he is working for the majority of Venezuelans