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Emmanuel Macron rival and his pregnant PA appear in public
Next year Eric Zemmour - who has race hate convictions - looks likely to go head to head with Emmanuel Macron for the presidency.
Politics The 2022 French Presidential Election/French politics thread
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^I love the vid of him pointing the rifle at some blokes head!
other than that his own head is just made for punching.
(sorry I really have nothing of value to contribute but I had to get that off my chest)
other than that his own head is just made for punching.
(sorry I really have nothing of value to contribute but I had to get that off my chest)
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If you meant that Macron’s head is just made for punching, I wholeheartedly agree and give you a double extra like. ?
I don’t believe for one second that Zemmour will win but since the leftards and other good hearted people call him an « islamophobe » and a racist starting with the worthless mayor of London. I’m still inclined to have some sympathy for him.
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Zemmour's campaign launch painted a dark vision of France
So it’s official: Eric Zemmour will stand as a candidate in next year’s French presidential election. It was hardly a shock when he launched his campaign this morning with a video that was the visual equivalent of a Michel Houellebecq novel. Nearly seven years ago, Houellebecq’s novel...
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'cut-price Donald Trump'
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Not really.
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Le Pen used to be more like Trump before the party got rebranded while Zemour to me comes across as a more rational/restrained individual.
More Michael than Sonny (yes, that is a Godfather reference). And we all know who the Fredo is
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Hard-right French MP tops Les Républicains party’s presidential primary
Éric Ciotti wants referendum ‘to stop mass immigration’ and set up ‘a French Guantánamo bay’
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Hard-right French MP tops Les Républicains party’s presidential primary
Éric Ciotti wants referendum ‘to stop mass immigration’ and set up ‘a French Guantánamo bay’
Sarkozy 2.0
Lot of bla-bla-bla
Tons of promises
I’ll do this and that and after five years of Sarkozy: less cops on tough areas, more migrants, less beds in ICU and hospitals because budget.
Politicians to put it simply.
Eric ciotti has not a single chance of being elected.
Four months prior to the election. I’m going for make a fair prediction and what everybody here believe: Macron vs Le Pen again and the wanna be Napoleon re-elected in a landslide.
It is what it is.
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Well in the end, we will have Valerie Pecresse for candidate by the whatever wing "les Republicains".
I don´t mind her, I think she was a good education minister, she holds her place as president of the Ile de France region. She got some bad vibe for having protested along the "manif pour tous" that was against gay marriage. Although she was essentially expressing her refusal of artificial procreation and the rewriting of what a parent was.
She is in a way the continuation of Francois Fillon who was a social conservative but also more of an economic conservative as well. But I don´t trust LR to adopt a real conservative stance in the economy. Almost everyone is a statist when it comes to the economy.
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I don´t mind her, I think she was a good education minister, she holds her place as president of the Ile de France region. She got some bad vibe for having protested along the "manif pour tous" that was against gay marriage. Although she was essentially expressing her refusal of artificial procreation and the rewriting of what a parent was.
She is in a way the continuation of Francois Fillon who was a social conservative but also more of an economic conservative as well. But I don´t trust LR to adopt a real conservative stance in the economy. Almost everyone is a statist when it comes to the economy.
France’s Les Républicains choose Pécresse as 2022 presidential candidate
France's conservative party on Saturday chose Valérie Pécresse, the moderate chief of the Paris region, to challenge President Emmanuel Macron next year, a choice that will likely have major influence…
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Le Pen used to be more like Trump before the party got rebranded while Zemour to me comes across as a more rational/restrained individual.
More Michael than Sonny (yes, that is a Godfather reference). And we all know who the Fredo is
Zemour and Trump are "similar" in the sense that none of them are politicians and/or have worked in politics before running for the presidency.
The big difference is that Zemour has been very vocal and implicated in politics, writing books, hosting and guesting TV shows dealing with politics. That kind of thing.
Trump never had that stance and/or played that kind of game. Yes, he gave his opinion on political matters but nothing really out of the public norm.
Iirc, the farthest he, Trump that is, went in "political life" was when he got called (or maybe he wasn't called, I can't remember) to testify before Congress back in 1996 (or 1994) on matters related to real-estate economics and how the US market was being handled. And that was pretty much it, him giving his opinion, or sharing his view, as some sort of expert on the subject (since his fortune is partly/mostly made in that particular field).
So, at least he went in with a certain (and rather substantial) level of experience and insight.
Zemour on the other hand?
Well... he has ideas and opinions? Good for him, but it is just like anybody on Earth.
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Most politicians are career critters that have spent their entire lives as public servants. That is why they fail at their jobs. They've never experienced the real world and they never really faced the consequences of failing. Public servants that fail just get promoted out of the way where they can fail even bigger.
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The speech from Zemmour was quite interesting and well written, he’s not that bad an orator for someone not being a politician and he had to make clear again that he’s not a racist. CNN, BBC and the French merdias already label him as such anyway.
A small Jewish boy originally from Algeria coming to France in his youth must be a racist indeed…
Either way, the medias are mostly talking about some incidents that happened during the rally yesterday as you can see on this video:
Basically a number of Antifa militants protested his speech and got their ass kicked out by some of the strongest arms of the Zemmour supporters.
It’s obviously unacceptable, some will tell me “they had it coming” but nope. Politics has became overly and increasingly more violent from the far left to the right and no one should condone it.
Sad because his speech, again was anything but ridiculous or outrageous.
A small Jewish boy originally from Algeria coming to France in his youth must be a racist indeed…
Either way, the medias are mostly talking about some incidents that happened during the rally yesterday as you can see on this video:
Basically a number of Antifa militants protested his speech and got their ass kicked out by some of the strongest arms of the Zemmour supporters.
It’s obviously unacceptable, some will tell me “they had it coming” but nope. Politics has became overly and increasingly more violent from the far left to the right and no one should condone it.
Sad because his speech, again was anything but ridiculous or outrageous.
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Political violence bequeath political violence.
Antifa... well... yes, technically they had it coming. And I am saying that while setting aside all the things they have done so far and up to this point.
In this specific instance, they came with clear intent: disturbing and causing violence. And, also, possibly, inciting as well. In the end they got what they wanted and what they were looking for.
-they disturbed Zemmour's meeting.
-they caused violence.
-they found themselves at the receiving end of violence in the backlash.
From a PR point of view, antifa achieved their goal, which is always achieved to some extent:
-our acts of violence are legitimate because they are done in the name of our cause which is just, because we declared so.
-we got victimized and found ourselves at the receiving end of violence, this proves our cause is just and legitimate.
Legitimacy that got artificially pumped up by a form of ableism and soft-acceptance for political expediency and convenience.
But in the end, antifa isn't on anybody's side but its own.
Antifa... well... yes, technically they had it coming. And I am saying that while setting aside all the things they have done so far and up to this point.
In this specific instance, they came with clear intent: disturbing and causing violence. And, also, possibly, inciting as well. In the end they got what they wanted and what they were looking for.
-they disturbed Zemmour's meeting.
-they caused violence.
-they found themselves at the receiving end of violence in the backlash.
From a PR point of view, antifa achieved their goal, which is always achieved to some extent:
-our acts of violence are legitimate because they are done in the name of our cause which is just, because we declared so.
-we got victimized and found ourselves at the receiving end of violence, this proves our cause is just and legitimate.
Legitimacy that got artificially pumped up by a form of ableism and soft-acceptance for political expediency and convenience.
But in the end, antifa isn't on anybody's side but its own.
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Personally I’m sure that they would have expected some “strong” reactions.
Of course it’s silly of them to come to such meeting supposedly “peacefully”, when they wanted to disturb the speech and trigger a reaction, although the reaction was over the top and that silly Antifa girl probably didn’t deserve the beating.
The point I agree with is of course it discredit the audience of Zemmour, as usual. Oh look, they beat up brutally a mixed lady, the brown shirts are back and yadayadayada.
Of course it’s silly of them to come to such meeting supposedly “peacefully”, when they wanted to disturb the speech and trigger a reaction, although the reaction was over the top and that silly Antifa girl probably didn’t deserve the beating.
The point I agree with is of course it discredit the audience of Zemmour, as usual. Oh look, they beat up brutally a mixed lady, the brown shirts are back and yadayadayada.
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When you embed yourself with a group of antifa, with "disturbing the political meeting of a figure you have been antagonizing for quite some time", one has to be pretty naive to think it will end up being anything but a brawl.
Well... a brawl may not be the de-facto outcome, but it is pretty likely.
And looking at that young woman who got roughed up... she does not really have the physical appearance of a "frontline" antifa. Maybe she is idealistic, enthusiastic and very outspoken about her beliefs (and that's very good), but when it comes to situational awareness she appears to be lacking...
Disturbing a political meeting (no matter the fringe) isn't like organizing the blockade of a lecture-hall at your local university. There will be push-back, if not by the security services, by the attending crowd.
Well... a brawl may not be the de-facto outcome, but it is pretty likely.
And looking at that young woman who got roughed up... she does not really have the physical appearance of a "frontline" antifa. Maybe she is idealistic, enthusiastic and very outspoken about her beliefs (and that's very good), but when it comes to situational awareness she appears to be lacking...
Disturbing a political meeting (no matter the fringe) isn't like organizing the blockade of a lecture-hall at your local university. There will be push-back, if not by the security services, by the attending crowd.
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All around it’s going to be quite the bumpy ride I predicted earlier in the thread.
I’ve yet to hear of Eric Zemmour or Marine le Pen supporters go and try to infiltrate some of the far left rallies like those of Jean-Luc Mélenchon and yell “death to commies” because they would be quickly; at best evacuated or at worse also beaten up.
Case in point, yeah I think it was very dumb to go protest as “Antifa or anti-racist” against Zemmour amongst 10k of his supporters since he’s not even the racist those aforementioned medias claim he is.
Oh, he’s been convicted for “hate speech” by some kangaroo French court which is more than anyone need to know. Read: freedom of speech is verboten here.
I’ve yet to hear of Eric Zemmour or Marine le Pen supporters go and try to infiltrate some of the far left rallies like those of Jean-Luc Mélenchon and yell “death to commies” because they would be quickly; at best evacuated or at worse also beaten up.
Case in point, yeah I think it was very dumb to go protest as “Antifa or anti-racist” against Zemmour amongst 10k of his supporters since he’s not even the racist those aforementioned medias claim he is.
Oh, he’s been convicted for “hate speech” by some kangaroo French court which is more than anyone need to know. Read: freedom of speech is verboten here.
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Relevant here, and BLM etc etc
There have always been a few willing to have a good scrap....
spectator.com.au
There have always been a few willing to have a good scrap....
A short history of political violence | The Spectator Australia
The ugly attack on Iain Duncan Smith by five protestors at the Tory conference in Manchester has been widely seen as another illustration of how dangerously embittered British politics has become.
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