I never expected the full order to go through, regardless of which government was in power. I figured something like 32 would be the number. Wow. Good on the Poles (and Boeing).
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Poland is preparing for major advancements in its defense industry as negotiations for new contracts continue. Krzysztof Trofiniak, President of the Board of PGZ S.A., confirmed that discussions are underway for the delivery of four squadrons of Krab SPH, totaling 96 units. These new howitzers will be equipped with updates, including a new variant for the autoloader and modular propelling charges.
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The Armament Agency, on behalf of the Ministry of National Defense, signed the first executive contract with AMZ-Kutno for the delivery of 28 out of 286 planned Bóbr-3 Light Armored Reconnaissance Carriers as part of the program codenamed Kleszcz.
The essential elements of the Light Armored Reconnaissance Carrier include: systems: reconnaissance - equipped with a tactical battlefield reconnaissance radar and an optoelectronic head, communications - ensuring simultaneous communication between LARC vehicles, helicopters and command down to the battalion level, weapons system (remotely controlled weapon system) - equipped with 12-cal. WKM-B machine guns .7 mm and 7.62 mm UKM, a system of filtering, ventilation, air conditioning and detection and protection against weapons of mass destruction, as well as a system of protection against laser beam radiation coupled with a smoke grenade launcher.
The essential elements of the Light Armored Reconnaissance Carrier include: systems: reconnaissance - equipped with a tactical battlefield reconnaissance radar and an optoelectronic head, communications - ensuring simultaneous communication between LARC vehicles, helicopters and command down to the battalion level, weapons system (remotely controlled weapon system) - equipped with 12-cal. WKM-B machine guns .7 mm and 7.62 mm UKM, a system of filtering, ventilation, air conditioning and detection and protection against weapons of mass destruction, as well as a system of protection against laser beam radiation coupled with a smoke grenade launcher.
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The Polish Air Force is undergoing a major metamorphosis. Equipment of post-Soviet production is disappearing from the line at an increasingly rapid pace, such as MiG-29s , a large batch of which we transferred to fighting Ukraine, or the worn-out Su-22s, which are no longer suitable for the conditions of the modern battlefield. Their place is to be taken by, among others, multi-role F-35 fighters .
In 2022, Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak signed a framework agreement for the purchase of South Korean FA-50s . And this is where the problem begins.
It is not clear what tasks the machines were supposed to fulfill. The first 12 FA-50s, the GF (Gap Filler) version, are to fulfill training tasks.
Only the FA-50PL will be a "full-fledged" combat aircraft. The Polish side would like them to be able to carry, among others, AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles.
However, as Chang Jae Lee, director of Korea Aerospace Industries' Central Europe office, said in a recent interview for WNP.PL, it depends on the Americans . And whether they, as a manufacturer, will agree to the possibility of integrating the machine with the missile. It won't be cheap, though...
There are also issues of different radars than in the GF version or the possibility of refueling in the air. The work on the "Polonized" machine will therefore be extensive. And consequently - expensive.
It is also worth noting that only Polonized machines will be able to carry, for example, AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles, which are in the equipment of the Polish Army. They cannot be carried by machines purchased so far GF.
The key question is: were the Armaments Agency and Mariusz Błaszczak, who decided to purchase it, aware of the problems with Polonization of the equipment and the delays that could result from it?
And there will be delays. This results from the response given to the portal by the Armed Forces Support Inspectorate (IW SZ), quoted by "Dziennik Zbrojny". The portal states that "the plan to deliver the first FA-50PL aircraft to Poland in 2025 is no longer valid".
This is crucial because, according to the provisions of the contract, delivery of the FA-50PL to us was to begin in 2025. And after three years we should have all 36 ordered machines.
The planes are to - mainly - relieve the F-16. According to what "Dziennik Zbrojny" reports, the Armed Forces IW SZ expects a "conversion squadron" to be created, the goal of which would be to reduce training flights on the F-16 (much of the equipment and the cockpit layout of both machines are similar). This would reduce the level of aircraft wear and tear and the need for expensive services or repairs.
IW SZ defines the Air Force needs for about 30 new pilots per year. And thanks to the M-346 Master machines we can train up to 10 of them per year. A separate issue is the "capacity" of the Air Force Academy in Dęblin, which is not infinite.
Poland is waiting for F-35 fighters, the military suggests that we should buy more squadrons - this time air superiority fighters. Perhaps, if we decide on F-15s, for example, the pilots will also have to be trained.
And what about the soldiers of the so-called SIL, or engineering-aviation service - those who will be really responsible for the efficiency of the machines? There are already problems with this. In the case of subsequent types of machines, they will increase.
There are other issues as well, such as maintaining the capabilities of the pilots on the planes we already have. And so we return to the heavily loaded F-16s.
For this reason, the purchase of the FA-50 could have been justified. But the balance of profits and losses is not favorable for Poland .
We could probably order more Master training and combat machines from the Italians, then there would be no need to implement a new system in the Armed Forces. But the minister - as people "close to the subject" say - had an urgent need to show that he cares not only about the Land Forces. And so, the Armed Forces received FA-50s.
It must be admitted that the Koreans delivered the first 12 aircraft to Poland at an express pace. From the signing of the first contract for the GF version aircraft to the completion of deliveries, about 1.5 years passed, which is a very good result for such a large contract.
During the International Defense Industry Exhibition, the spokesman for the Armament Agency, Lt. Col. Grzegorz Polak assured that the contract was being implemented. Will it be completed and will the full 36 new jets from South Korea arrive on the Vistula? Only time will tell.
https://www.wnp.pl/przemysl-obronny...-obawy-o-wielomiliardowy-kontrakt,882426.html
In 2022, Defense Minister Mariusz Błaszczak signed a framework agreement for the purchase of South Korean FA-50s . And this is where the problem begins.
It is not clear what tasks the machines were supposed to fulfill. The first 12 FA-50s, the GF (Gap Filler) version, are to fulfill training tasks.
Only the FA-50PL will be a "full-fledged" combat aircraft. The Polish side would like them to be able to carry, among others, AIM-120 AMRAAM air-to-air missiles.
However, as Chang Jae Lee, director of Korea Aerospace Industries' Central Europe office, said in a recent interview for WNP.PL, it depends on the Americans . And whether they, as a manufacturer, will agree to the possibility of integrating the machine with the missile. It won't be cheap, though...
There are also issues of different radars than in the GF version or the possibility of refueling in the air. The work on the "Polonized" machine will therefore be extensive. And consequently - expensive.
It is also worth noting that only Polonized machines will be able to carry, for example, AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles, which are in the equipment of the Polish Army. They cannot be carried by machines purchased so far GF.
The key question is: were the Armaments Agency and Mariusz Błaszczak, who decided to purchase it, aware of the problems with Polonization of the equipment and the delays that could result from it?
And there will be delays. This results from the response given to the portal by the Armed Forces Support Inspectorate (IW SZ), quoted by "Dziennik Zbrojny". The portal states that "the plan to deliver the first FA-50PL aircraft to Poland in 2025 is no longer valid".
This is crucial because, according to the provisions of the contract, delivery of the FA-50PL to us was to begin in 2025. And after three years we should have all 36 ordered machines.
The planes are to - mainly - relieve the F-16. According to what "Dziennik Zbrojny" reports, the Armed Forces IW SZ expects a "conversion squadron" to be created, the goal of which would be to reduce training flights on the F-16 (much of the equipment and the cockpit layout of both machines are similar). This would reduce the level of aircraft wear and tear and the need for expensive services or repairs.
IW SZ defines the Air Force needs for about 30 new pilots per year. And thanks to the M-346 Master machines we can train up to 10 of them per year. A separate issue is the "capacity" of the Air Force Academy in Dęblin, which is not infinite.
Poland is waiting for F-35 fighters, the military suggests that we should buy more squadrons - this time air superiority fighters. Perhaps, if we decide on F-15s, for example, the pilots will also have to be trained.
And what about the soldiers of the so-called SIL, or engineering-aviation service - those who will be really responsible for the efficiency of the machines? There are already problems with this. In the case of subsequent types of machines, they will increase.
There are other issues as well, such as maintaining the capabilities of the pilots on the planes we already have. And so we return to the heavily loaded F-16s.
For this reason, the purchase of the FA-50 could have been justified. But the balance of profits and losses is not favorable for Poland .
We could probably order more Master training and combat machines from the Italians, then there would be no need to implement a new system in the Armed Forces. But the minister - as people "close to the subject" say - had an urgent need to show that he cares not only about the Land Forces. And so, the Armed Forces received FA-50s.
It must be admitted that the Koreans delivered the first 12 aircraft to Poland at an express pace. From the signing of the first contract for the GF version aircraft to the completion of deliveries, about 1.5 years passed, which is a very good result for such a large contract.
During the International Defense Industry Exhibition, the spokesman for the Armament Agency, Lt. Col. Grzegorz Polak assured that the contract was being implemented. Will it be completed and will the full 36 new jets from South Korea arrive on the Vistula? Only time will tell.
https://www.wnp.pl/przemysl-obronny...-obawy-o-wielomiliardowy-kontrakt,882426.html
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A mistake has been made. Unless there are plans to attempt to establish cooperation in the production of the FA-50 - and, above all, in servicing and modifying the aircraft (the choice of radar for the PL version, unfortunately, does not indicate this). That would be the first step. And in the next step - cooperation in the production of KF-21. But I doubt such a long planning time horizon in this case.
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Test FA-50 with an extended nose with a Phantom Strike radar (previously they tested an in-flight fuel sampling probe on it).
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The Korea Aerospace Industries (KAI) production line in Sacheon already has six FA-50PL fighters in various stages of construction, the plant is capable of assembling 14 of these types of aircraft at a time.
They occupy half of the production hall. The other half is intended for mass production of the next-generation KF-21 Boremae fighters.
Testing of the FA-50PL prototype is underway, with flight tests of the aerial refueling system and the new nose section with the Phantom Strike radar being carried out.
They occupy half of the production hall. The other half is intended for mass production of the next-generation KF-21 Boremae fighters.
Testing of the FA-50PL prototype is underway, with flight tests of the aerial refueling system and the new nose section with the Phantom Strike radar being carried out.
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Ignore the video title. It is a land based US Navy Aegis system crewed by US Sailors and I believe it is a USN facility.
And unless I have it twisted around the base has been there for a couple of years.
This is just the least tragically bad video I could find that talked about it.
As long as they don't misfire some missiles or wreck the pub they will probably be decently received by the locals.
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Polish lawmakers have voted to allocate some 3 billion złoty ($740 million) for investments in ramping up the country’s ammunition production capacities, with a particular focus on much-needed 155mm artillery shells.
The decision to approve the bill was made by the Sejm, the lower chamber of the Polish parliament, on Nov. 27 by a majority of 424 votes, with no lawmakers voting against the measure. Following this, the legislation needs to be approved by the senate, the upper chamber, and signed by the president to enter into force.
The allocated funds “will be used to capitalize companies responsible for producing ammunition, in particular artillery ammunition of caliber 155mm,” Polish Deputy State Assets Minister Marcin Kulasek said in a social media post.
The funds will be made available for investments by companies that seek the state’s backing for their projects to ramp up ammunition manufacturing capabilities. The program will be financed by the Ministry of National Defence and government securities.
The latest development comes as Warsaw is exploring various means of drastically increasing industry capacity for making artillery shells. As the predominantly state-owned sector relies on imported components to manufacture 155mm ammunition, officials are looking at ways to secure the necessary manufacturing technology from foreign partners.
Polish Deputy Prime Minister and National Defence Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz recently stated that Poland aims to cooperate with Slovakia to secure the necessary technology that will allow the country to boost production. Kosiniak-Kamysz declared willingness to bolster Warsaw’s partnership with Bratislava during the minister’s Nov. 22 meeting with his Slovak counterpart, Robert Kaliňák.
“I’m greatly impressed by Slovakia’s production capacities in the field of ammunition, in particular the 155mm one, but also other types,” Kosiniak-Kamysz told his counterpart. “We want to develop our defense industry together with you.”
The Polish military requires increasing 155mm ammunition deliveries for its growing fleet of K9 Thunder and Krab self-propelled howitzers, manufactured by South Korea’s Hanwha Aerospace and Poland’s state-run defense group PGZ, respectively.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/...ion-fund-to-jump-start-ammunition-production/
The decision to approve the bill was made by the Sejm, the lower chamber of the Polish parliament, on Nov. 27 by a majority of 424 votes, with no lawmakers voting against the measure. Following this, the legislation needs to be approved by the senate, the upper chamber, and signed by the president to enter into force.
The allocated funds “will be used to capitalize companies responsible for producing ammunition, in particular artillery ammunition of caliber 155mm,” Polish Deputy State Assets Minister Marcin Kulasek said in a social media post.
The funds will be made available for investments by companies that seek the state’s backing for their projects to ramp up ammunition manufacturing capabilities. The program will be financed by the Ministry of National Defence and government securities.
The latest development comes as Warsaw is exploring various means of drastically increasing industry capacity for making artillery shells. As the predominantly state-owned sector relies on imported components to manufacture 155mm ammunition, officials are looking at ways to secure the necessary manufacturing technology from foreign partners.
Polish Deputy Prime Minister and National Defence Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz recently stated that Poland aims to cooperate with Slovakia to secure the necessary technology that will allow the country to boost production. Kosiniak-Kamysz declared willingness to bolster Warsaw’s partnership with Bratislava during the minister’s Nov. 22 meeting with his Slovak counterpart, Robert Kaliňák.
“I’m greatly impressed by Slovakia’s production capacities in the field of ammunition, in particular the 155mm one, but also other types,” Kosiniak-Kamysz told his counterpart. “We want to develop our defense industry together with you.”
The Polish military requires increasing 155mm ammunition deliveries for its growing fleet of K9 Thunder and Krab self-propelled howitzers, manufactured by South Korea’s Hanwha Aerospace and Poland’s state-run defense group PGZ, respectively.
https://www.defensenews.com/global/...ion-fund-to-jump-start-ammunition-production/
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