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Moscow reaches out to new Syrian leadership in move to secure bases
Having labelled Syrian rebels ‘terrorists’, Moscow is now making diplomatic efforts to protect its military assets in the country
Benjamin Netanyahu says Golan Heights will remain part of Israel ‘for eternity’
PM’s words follow Israeli takeover of previously demilitarised zone in Syrian-controlled territory
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Well, technically Syria still has parts of it…. very small parts.
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If I were them, I would probably shoot at everything flying around in the sky... I'd say that's a sign of poor communication.
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These prisons are turning more and more into modern Auschwitz.
Since his arrival in Russia, Assad hasn't been seen in public.
Putin refuses to meet with him.
I think, and hope, when enough/all of the stuff Assad did gets exposed Putin will hand him over to Syria.
The ICC and such are utterly useless.
Since his arrival in Russia, Assad hasn't been seen in public.
Putin refuses to meet with him.
I think, and hope, when enough/all of the stuff Assad did gets exposed Putin will hand him over to Syria.
The ICC and such are utterly useless.
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@Ivan le Fou
Your posts here are a comedy show.
First, you said that the RuAF killed al-Jolani in an airstrike.
Then, you said that RuZZia has got enough resources to fight the war in Ukraine and Syria at the same time.
Seeing what was happening, you concluded that RuZZia struck a deal with Turkey, Iran, and random countries to partition Syria. Lol, probably, the RuZZians struck a deal with Turkey to remove the Armenians from Nagorno Karabakh and to partition Libya as well.
Then, you assumed that the RuZZians would be stupid enough to kill al-Asshat the way they killed Prigozhin.
Finally, you keep believing that the RuZZians would be stupid enough to hand al-Asshat over to the ICC. What if somebody hands over the RuZZian leadership itself to the ICC as well in the future? How about other Third World dictators who are dependent on RuZZia? They would sh1t their pants and rethink their cooperation with RuZZia. You simply don’t understand RuZZia’ business and political model.
Why do you believe the RuZZian leadership is stupid and is prone to taking self-damaging steps?
The key difference between us is that I believe the RuZZian leadership is evil but not stupid, while you think the other way around.
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At the time.
Rumors of Jolani being killed was reported by nafoids first.
A strike being carried out on a terrorists (still wanted by the FBI, by the way) isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
Pictures and videos were circulated, claiming to show the body of Jolani.
These were rumors, that were later proven false.
Rumors, hence, at the time, the use of the words "reportedly"/"apparently".
At the time.
It was not entirely sure was going on and how the situation would unfold.
Was it a good old push by Turkey backed terrorist groups? How many were involved was unknown.
The will to fight of the Syrian forces was unknown, but assumed to be existing. The will to fight of Syria's regional allies, excluding Russia, was unknown, but assumed to be existing.
Based on these assumptions, it was assumed Russia's resources in the region would be enough to support the main effort carried out by Syria and local militias.
Turned out, the SAA and its allied militias folded.
Russia's presence in Syria is fairly limited and they only carried out limited, localized strikes. They could have done more, but decided not to since it appears evident nobody wanted to hold Assad's hand and fight for him.
Meanwhile Russia is still taking ground in Ukraine on a daily basis, and Zelensky is claiming to have played a major role in the collapse of Assad.
At the time.
Suppositions were made as to what was happening regarding the status of Syria, with various groups, with various backers, taking grounds all over Syria.
These groups are not necessarily antagonistic to one another, but not necessarily friendly to one another either.
That their backers somehow discussed the situation and came to agreements is not out of the realm of possibilities. There is such a thing as "behind the scene diplomacy".
Coming to an informal agreement about a partition/division of Syria isn't a crazy prospect. Since the beginning of the Civil War we have seen attempts by foreign actors to annex Syria territory, Turkey to the north, Israel to the south, Iraq to the east.
Later reports and comments made by diplomats and officials do suggest talks were ongoing, behind and around the scenes, about what would happen in Syria. As reported by the Washington Post and other media, Assad has been approached on numerous occasions to discuss the course of events.
Approaching Assad to have these discussions was, likely, the last item on the list since the main talks between the main actors (Turkey, Russia, the US, Israel, Iran (maybe), Iraq (maybe), etc...) would have likely happened way before hand. Contacting Assad was merely a courtesy. As in: here is going to happen, here is how it is going to happen; it can go the easy way or the hard way. Either ways, that is what will happen.
Syria is immensely complex with a mind-boggling number of moving parts. There are no binary assumptions or assessments to be made, and "reality" will unfold in the coming weeks, months and even years.
Setting events in motion is one thing, having them reach your preferred destination is a whole other conundrum.
I fail to see the logic behind your claims regarding Armenia and Libya.
At the time.
Claims about Assad being shot down were made by nafoids.
Then adding he was shot down by Russia, still by nafoids.
Then by Israel.
These were rumors, that turned out to be false.
Rumors, hence, at the time, the use of the words "reportedly"/"apparently".
Again, remember? As in point n°1?
Assad's plane getting shot down isn't that of a crazy theory. In fact that would have been a good thing if it had happened, either by accident or intentionally. And Assad getting refused help from anybody, Russia could have very well decided to trash Assad and dispose of him.
Russia has built a reputation about failing to properly identify planes, the plane gets wrongfully fired at and goes down, accidents happen, oh well...
Do I keep believing Russia would hand over Assad to the ICC?
Did I even say that?
No.
If you want to attribute things to others, at least do it properly.
In fact I didn't say Russia would or should hand over Assad to the ICC, but to the Syrian people.
The ICC is an impotent organization, and handing Assad over to them would only lead to a lengthy, protracted, trial process.
Assad is guilty, he deserves the rope. Hand him over to the Syrian, and let them take care of him the want they want and need.
I hope it does. It could. Is it likely? Not really, but is it impossible? Not necessarily. Based on the very lukewarm "welcome" Assad got from Russia, and considering Russia and Syria new government are talking to each-other about, among other things, Russia keeping its military bases in Syria, if the topic of handing over Assad to Syria to face justice came it could very well happen.
As for your claim of me not understanding Russia's "business and political model", I wouldn't claim to be an expert on it, but I do have a good understanding of it. Not letting emotions overtake oneself is usually a plus for that kind of work.
Good job, you managed to get my attention with your little early-morning tantrum.
I'd recommend you make some efforts understanding what you read, as I have told you already in the past.
Now back to the ignore list with you, and thank you for reminding me I put you on it.
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The winners and losers of the political earthquake in Syria
Russia and Iran will downplay their losses
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You are the only person, apart from the barely-existing RuZZia StroK crew, who believes that RuZZia is able to fight a full-scale conflict both in Ukraine and Syria at the same time.
Again, you believe that RuZZia could have done more. Yes, a bit more, but not enough to stop the rebels. Logistics is the keyword.
I know about it. I refer to Zelensky as a comedian, as that's exactly who he is. His approval rate was at 37%, then it skyrocketed in February 2022, and then it went down to the sh1tter after he promised his countrymen to win the war, take Crimea, and other bullsh1t like that. You never know when professional comedians are serious, especially the ones who play the piano with their d1cks.
That's correct. The airbase near Aleppo had resisted the rebel and ISIS attacks for 2 years, despite being cut off, before. These SAA soldiers must have been extremely motivated a few years ago.
Was not it a ringing bell when it fell without any resistance this time?
How about the siege of Deir ez-Zor that lasted for almost 3 years and the SAA forces were encircled there?
Siege of Deir ez-Zor (2014–2017) - Wikipedia
Nothing like this happened this time, though, and the SAA was fvcking off like no tomorrow.
Al-Asshat demobilised his army, as keeping its previous strength was very costly and the U.S. sanctions fvcked him up.
Veteran soldiers were demobilised and replaced with conscripts. Al-Asshat increased the percentage of Sunnis in his army compared to what it used to be like 7-8 years ago. As a Polish analyst pointed out: "How could a SAA soldier be motivated to fight if he gets two potatoes and one egg a day?"
Yes, but diplomacy does not work if somebody's plan is to MOEGA (Make the Ottoman Empire Great Again).
You know, a lion does not use diplomacy before eating an antelope.
MOEGA cancels these plans.
It was obvious to me that the Turks wanted to do something similar to what they had done in Nagorno-Karabakh.
Let me quote Pulp Fiction:
Nobody kills anybody
in my place of business...
- except me or Zed.
Likewise, nobody decides what happens in the Ottoman Empire except the sultan. The sultan does not like any competitors.
RuZZia did not have any plans to replace al-Asshat with anybody. He was just RuZZia's byatch.
That's correct.
I see the logic: MOEGA.
There's a massive difference between killing a person who was a byatch in prison, and a traitor who rebelled against monsieur Putain, and a dictator who projected the RuZZian power in the Mediterranean. With his wealth of about €700mln, Zhenya was just the 70th+ richest man in St. Petersburg. Not the top 10th or 50th and not like the billionaires who live in different regions or RuZZia.
My sincere apologies. You did not say that. I am sick and I read your post when I woke up.
In fact, you said something even more unthinkable, as a prison cell in the West looks like a 3-star hotel. while al-Asshat could be killed in Syria the way al-Tikriti was in Iraq.
My point stands. You said something even more ridiculous and improbable.
So, your theory is even more funny than in the case of the ICC. What if the RuZZians overthrew monsieur Putain and charged him for blowing up a few hundred RuZZians when their dictator wanted to start another war with Chechnya, or other crimes?
No matter if Putain is welcoming or not, it does not kill his allies. He just despises weak men and failed leaders. Killing them is something different and it would be against any logic.
I understood you very well apart from the ICC bit due to the reasons I've already explained to you.
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IDF knows HTS will be headache for next decades. Forget Hamas or Iranian Stovepipe rockets. Full Sünni supported Islamist Syria will be there. Will get Money and militias around the world from Saudis to East Timor. That's what happens if you try to creat PKK state next to turkey, turkey creates Taliban next to your doorbells. If anything moves further to Damascus, a merkava a jet soon IDF will get to ring Yehovas doorbell.
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Iran ‘lost faith’ in Assad before his ousting
Insider says Tehran declined to provide more military support for now-deposed Syrian leader
So, yes, they dumped Assad.
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