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In regards to Ivan's earlier post, he hadn't included a link so I did a google news search and the one I posted was in the top three results. It was literally only a week or two ago through work I found out that helicopters are used for offshore windfarm support in the North Sea where they winch people down to maintain them but the spraying part of it I hadn't heard of.
Very coincidentally, I was talking with some friends a few weeks ago and I was very surprised to learn how utilities use helicopters. It seems from what people have told me that choppers are used all of the time on high voltage line maintenance as well as inspection.
 
Very coincidentally, I was talking with some friends a few weeks ago and I was very surprised to learn how utilities use helicopters. It seems from what people have told me that choppers are used all of the time on high voltage line maintenance as well as inspection.

Yep, the one below is based about 30 miles South of me so have seen it heading past my house more than once - the nose camera is presumably for inspection work.

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Drones could do that.

They are going to drive up prices so that solar/wind looks good.
 
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Drones could do that.

They are going to drive up prices so that solar/wind looks good.

But isn't it strange that there is no mandate by any Govetment that all New housing should have Solar panels / Windmills in the garden
 
Drones could do that.
I honestly know nothing about drones but not convinced it's feasible on a national level yet. That heli can leave it's base in the middle of England and go inspect powerlines pretty much anywhere in the country for a couple of hours and then come back, refuel and then maybe change crews and then go and do it somewhere else. To do the same with a drone you'd have to set up a base somewhere close enough for the days inspection and then launch from there - get whatever it's flight time is (An hour or so?) inspecting, then come back to base to recharge. Then at the end of the day your crew either drive home from the other end of the country or get a hotel
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But isn't it strange that there is no mandate by any Govetment that all New housing should have Solar panels / Windmills in the garden

Because we don't make solar panels en masse in the UK . You can mandate double glazing for example because there's a large enough industry to support where as solar panels generally come from China . Welcome to the nirvana that is de industrialization .
 
Can use a truck as base. No flying between jobs and base and cost of flying drones is cheaper. Hotel cost though plus not everyone wants to be away from family is a drag. Autonomous flight another saving.
We can't fly swarms in NZ due to our pilot protective CAA. Over in Aussie they can. Now bigger drones are doing some of the jobs like orchard spraying and fertilizing that were the domain of ground and heli spreaders.
 
Because we don't make solar panels en masse in the UK . You can mandate double glazing for example because there's a large enough industry to support where as solar panels generally come from China . Welcome to the nirvana that is de industrialization .
Seem to have found a lot of lithium in Cornwall for batteries - lets get a battery plant built - not export it to the EU for them to add the value

Need some jobs in Cornwall to be honest
 
US houses are huge. Been watching a series on log cabins. Huge ceilings in get blizards country. Everyone's used to low cost heating fuel.
 
Seem to have found a lot of lithium in Cornwall for batteries - lets get a battery plant built - not export it to the EU for them to add the value

Need some jobs in Cornwall to be honest

I'd tend to agree with you but how many years until any potential investors see a return on investment ? That's the problem with green technologies , it needs huge investment and a lot of time which private investors simply don't have . It would have to be invested in by the state as it could turn into an intergenerational project so not suitable for short to medium term investment . As for lithium , most of the world's supply lie in 2 countries ; Chile and Bolivia .


Cough cough , Elon musk , cough cough .
 
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Heavy Snow Storm is underway in Tabuk, Saudi Arabia (Feb.17,2021) These camels ? confused

The dreary dromedaries – with their humps resembling snowy mountains — were captured on video gazing around their surroundings during the surreal storm.
 
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This is drone footage made by Charles Peek WX of Stateline Rd in Texarkana (Texarkana is a city in eastern Texas, with a twin city across the border in Arkansas)
 
I understand that many don't like Zero Hedge, but in this case they have a very good article that aptly summarizes Cascend Strategy's data on the power outages across Texas. It's a good read with lots of easy to understand charts and a good summary of what needs to happen in the future. I would suggest looking past the title and reading the article.


The interesting part is the first of five solutions, something that should always happen: Winterize equipment. Apparently, all of the plants, wind, solar, coal, gas, and nuclear suffered from the lack of winterization to at least some extent.
 
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This is one of the saddest parts of this whole debacle. If a home lost power, the property most likely was severely damaged in the form of burst pipes, etc. If the property had power, and the homeowner chose the wrong power plan, the homeowner is stuck with a huge bill. Even if a homeowner chose a good fixed rate plan, there will be a good chance that their rates will go up in the near future to pay for the amount of power that had to be bought at high rates.
 
This is one of the saddest parts of this whole debacle. If a home lost power, the property most likely was severely damaged in the form of burst pipes, etc. If the property had power, and the homeowner chose the wrong power plan, the homeowner is stuck with a huge bill. Even if a homeowner chose a good fixed rate plan, there will be a good chance that their rates will go up in the near future to pay for the amount of power that had to be bought at high rates.

This is indicative of the the whole system . Deregulation and " choice " which is supposed to put the customer first . There's no private company ever going to put it's customers first . Ironically collective bargaining is the strongest tool in the customers inventory but we are advised that this is bad for us and choice is good . In some markets yes but a public utility which you may rely on to survive not so good . Again nothing will come of this whole debacle and people will be expected to suck it up because there's no other way , or so they tell us .
 
This is indicative of the the whole system . Deregulation and " choice " which is supposed to put the customer first . There's no private company ever going to put it's customers first . Ironically collective bargaining is the strongest tool in the customers inventory but we are advised that this is bad for us and choice is good . In some markets yes but a public utility which you may rely on to survive not so good . Again nothing will come of this whole debacle and people will be expected to suck it up because there's no other way , or so they tell us .
Deregulation works well for large power users such as large companies where they have the sophistication to understand their needs, control their usage in extreme conditions, and have the ability to negotiate and write contracts to protect themselves from extreme events. The vast majority of consumers don't fully understand market risks and don't have the ability to mitigate those risks even if they understand them. For them, either a controlled monopoly or a limited range of fixed fee contracts are the only practical choices.

The worst case right now (barring the life ending ones that is) is some poor soul who had power during the first part of the event and got hit with the high fees only to lose it during the second half of the event and watch his property get destroyed.
 
Problem is the lines maintenance. The problem isn't unique its everywhere around the world where they have privatized public utilities.
Add in worksafe environment cost, compliance and little subcontractors tendering at the lowest cost, paying less for workers preferably as little training cost as possible and in the end you get this.
 
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