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Politics Climate Hysteria Debunked Yet Again ....

Say what you want about the BBC, but they have journalists who do some homework. So much fun...

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Ivan le Fou said:
Ok so... insider note... that's not how you hang yourself.

It also shows the level of self inflicted hysteria these activists are in.
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Absolutely.
Yesterday, some 11,000 scientists (I'd be surprised to hear the number comprised more than a few hundred reputable scientists) published a declaration in which they predict "unspeakable human suffering". The problem being, their very own models – albeit predicting major climatic changes – do not support that claim.

All these hyteria-driven fear-mongerers out there completely ignore two facts: Climate change won't bring about new weather phenomenons, it will only aggravate those that already exist. Secondly, we do possess the technology to shield us from these phenomenons. For heaven's sake, medieval Europeans have built dikes that lasted for 500 years despite ever-rising sea levels. It's pathetically ill-informed to claim we're defenceless.
 
PEMM said:
Remember the time when you would be on the internet downloading some 10mb game and your mom would yell "get out of the net, I am trying to call!"

And three weeks later we would have a family meeting "We have decided to drop the internet. *name of my brother* has visited adult entertainment site that required long distance call, cost us 1000 finnish marks."

We only got back to the internet few years later after long time of begging, when DSL plans with monthly payments came out.
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I remember removing the security/protection off spectrum games - and then C64's - then Amiga's and 1040ST's
PC disks - then them new fangled CD's (they were easy) - N64 cartridges to CD - Playstation games bigger than a CD overburning them - chip the playstation - the Wii I still have an ice hard drive somewhere with every Wii game ever released on it - with a really nice menu
PC DVD's - oops the protection fell off them as well
Mr Blobby.................... ? ?
Sad thing is the more protection there was on something the more interesting it was;)
the only thing we had a real issue with was a Steinberg music program which had a dongle and every time you did anything with the programme like save etc. the bloody code looked for the keyed dongle - there was also other code built in that looked for the dongle key code
half the size of the application was protection
we eventually ended up having to build a software dongle - and replaced their licence centre
for about 5 years every piece of software they produced had the same protection - they were that confident:)

when I first started work we had massive IBM mainframes and the 'porn' was pictures drawn with symbols - printed out on green lined paper
you had to hide the 20 or 30 punch cards it was on................ so the internet was progress in a way:oops:
I still remember the excitement near xmas of putting a christmas tree made up of symbols on the users login screen - simple pleasures
 
muck said:
Absolutely.
Yesterday, some 11,000 scientists (I'd be surprised to hear the number comprised more than a few hundred reputable scientists) published a declaration in which they predict "unspeakable human suffering". The problem being, their very own models – albeit predicting major climatic changes – do not support that claim.

All these hyteria-driven fear-mongerers out there completely ignore two facts: Climate change won't bring about new weather phenomenons, it will only aggravate those that already exist. Secondly, we do possess the technology to shield us from these phenomenons. For heaven's sake, medieval Europeans have built dikes that lasted for 500 years despite ever-rising sea levels. It's pathetically ill-informed to claim we're defenceless.
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is there that many trying to protect their grants:rolleyes:
 
muck said:
Absolutely.
Yesterday, some 11,000 scientists (I'd be surprised to hear the number comprised more than a few hundred reputable scientists) published a declaration in which they predict "unspeakable human suffering". The problem being, their very own models – albeit predicting major climatic changes – do not support that claim.

All these hyteria-driven fear-mongerers out there completely ignore two facts: Climate change won't bring about new weather phenomenons, it will only aggravate those that already exist. Secondly, we do possess the technology to shield us from these phenomenons. For heaven's sake, medieval Europeans have built dikes that lasted for 500 years despite ever-rising sea levels. It's pathetically ill-informed to claim we're defenceless.
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@muck
Look , we have been on this for several years now. Some buy the "technology will solve everything"
I (and few others) think it is a lure
The said technologies are expensive, rarely scalable up for the level of population concerned and well, mother Nature always finds a way to shove these technologies up to our collective arses

Your exemple of Medieval Europeans is correct. The thing is that we are not 500 millions, low ressource foot print, hard living people anymore.
60 to 80% of our populations live in urban areas that are very very sensitive systems that can falter at the slightest sand grain in the system
We are depending of outsourced food ressources and energy ressources for transportation, heat, cooking and food/water flow)
Cut the electricity 72-96h in NYC, Berlin, Paris or London and look the clusterfuck unfold.
Cut it for longer time and it is chaos.

For one thing, I think we are too much dependent of technology to fight systemic unstable systems, those that would be brought by CC
If i had to bet, i'd put my money on small scale culture peasants (not the mass industrialized ones) and people with low ressources needs to go through more easily through CC issues (provided they are not already in an unbalanced ecosystem like the Sub Saharan Belt)
or in other word, a small fisher community in Philippines or Indonesia will probably go through in a better way than a white collar living in a million inhabitant conurbation.
 
BCNTM said:
Sad thing is the more protection there was on something the more interesting it was;)
the only thing we had a real issue with was a Steinberg music program which had a dongle and every time you did anything with the programme like save etc. the bloody code looked for the keyed dongle - there was also other code built in that looked for the dongle key code
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I was really shocked when I actually bought a game and read the license. It said I didn't own the game and wasn't allowed to copy it to my friends. "Why the hell did I buy this then?"
 
Note they bring up the 11,000 in the news like it was yesterday but they signed it several years ago,... day after US pulls pulls out of Paris and on TV they had an Indian warmer scientist claiming 80% global warming is from rich countries and give her place a handout and free pass to chug out whatever CO2 they like, rich countries already donated their jobs though. Paris is just another socialist handout. Pure and simple "rich countries" economies with negative interest rates are already globally bled dry.
 
Apparently 11,000 scientists included people such as Professor Mickey Mouse and Harry Potter, 1000 students and assistants etc.
 
muck said:
Absolutely.
Yesterday, some 11,000 scientists (I'd be surprised to hear the number comprised more than a few hundred reputable scientists) published a declaration in which they predict "unspeakable human suffering". The problem being, their very own models – albeit predicting major climatic changes – do not support that claim.

All these hyteria-driven fear-mongerers out there completely ignore two facts: Climate change won't bring about new weather phenomenons, it will only aggravate those that already exist. Secondly, we do possess the technology to shield us from these phenomenons. For heaven's sake, medieval Europeans have built dikes that lasted for 500 years despite ever-rising sea levels. It's pathetically ill-informed to claim we're defenceless.
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Unfortunately a lot of fake names discovered on those petitions. Marsha Mellows, Claude Balls, Seymour Butts. Not saying there aren't a bunch of legit names, but it does seem sort of funny.

Scientists’ petition on climate crisis blocked over fake signatories


https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sc...s/news-story/eb7b2647890516320363863b8dd1caee
 
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Latest nonsense from the Church of climatology ......
 
Just read on SkyNews that the horrible musical band known as Coldplay won't be going on tour anymore unless they can make their concerts into "environmentally beneficial" events.

Ha ha ha ha ha!
 
Aussie is planning solar farms. Something of a 180 since they never mentioned any of that in election promises. Quite the opposite, in fact they were down right huggy for coal.

Perhaps they will be both.
But these new power generators plan on continual expansion and actively promote the demise of all else. Won't be until they consumer can't afford the air conditioner going, when they will suspect they were wrong.
 
primer said:
Aussie is planning solar farms. Something of a 180 since they never mentioned any of that in election promises. Quite the opposite, in fact they were down right huggy for coal.

Perhaps they will be both.
But these new power generators plan on continual expansion and actively promote the demise of all else. Won't be until they consumer can't afford the air conditioner going, when they will suspect they were wrong.
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Having been involved with a company that sank due to solar farm builds in aussie, it sounds like there are major issues in aussie with actual connection to the grid. We were lead to believe that farms were complete and ready to go but were not being connected due to government redtape, which of course meant the project was not complete and we were getting stung with non payment and completion penalties.
 
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