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[Chazman]

The situation is more complicated. For example, if someone joins the Turks, his family will receive citizenship, etc. Unfortunately, I only have a writing in Hungarian about this now.

So you are confirming that these Turkish supplied mercenaries get more than just money from Turkey,

 

[thanamestolga]

So you are confirming that these Turkish supplied mercenaries get more than just money from Turkey,

And? So what?

 

[Chazman]

And? So what?

So nothing. Merely responding to his post. It's no secret that Turkey is hiring foreign mercenaries to be used as cannon fodder in Syria, Libya and now the Caucuses.

 

[1645556315]

So nothing. Merely responding to his post. It's no secret that Turkey is hiring foreign mercenaries to be used as cannon fodder in Syria, Libya and now the Caucuses.

Not just mercinaries, but members of various islamists terrorists groups.

 

[Chazman]

Not just mercinaries, but members of various islamists terrorists groups.

I'd say, they make up the overwhelming bulk of the Turkish mercenaries.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

I'd say, they make up the overwhelming bulk of the Turkish mercenaries.

And thus adding religious numb-nuts into the equation.

Well done!

 

[Chazman]

And thus adding religious numb-nuts into the equation.

Well done!

When Erdo gets done with his psuedo-Ottoman Empire dream, all of these Islamic lunatics will have to be cleaned up by someone.

 

[Stimpy75]

so after your logic every muslim is a islamist? or do you think those syrian mercenaries are all İSİS members? did i get it right? so it's no problem when blackwater or wagner mercenaries fight for big money, but when syrian mecenaries fight it's an enormous outrage....fckn double standards!!!
let me guess all of you still think Turkey supports isis? right?

CIA apologises to Turkey over ‘false claims’ of links to Daesh – Middle East Monitor

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your beloved ypg scumbags are working with those rats....but that's no problem...because enemies of Turkey...that's good

amnqum how i hate these fckn double standards and hypocracy!!

i am out of this thread!

 

[Chazman]

so after your logic every muslim is a islamist? or do you think those syrian mercenaries are all İSİS members? did i get it right? so it's no problem when blackwater or wagner mercenaries fight for big money, but when syrian mecenaries fight it's an enormous outrage....fckn double standards!!!
let me guess all of you still think Turkey supports isis? right?

CIA apologises to Turkey over ‘false claims’ of links to Daesh – Middle East Monitor

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your beloved ypg scumbags are working with those rats....but that's no problem...because enemies of Turkey...that's good

amnqum how i hate these fckn double standards and hypocracy!!

i am out of this thread!

These mercenaries on the Turkish payroll are not "every Muslim". In fact, I'd have think deeply to remember a Turkish sponsored gun for hire group which isn't Islamist/ISIS/Al Qaeda/other scumbag.

Also, lets not forget who supported, armed and trained many of these characters in the Syrian civil war. It's just common knowledge and there is no denying it.

Regarding the story posted, John Kerry is a lying sack of sh!t and is an embarrassment to everyone.

One difference between these mercenaries and Blackwater, (which no longer exists) and Wagner is, those mercenaries are just in it for the money. When their done with their contract they fade back into society. The Turkish contracted mercenaries want the money as well, but afterwards, still want something more and down the road, other people will have to confront them.

 

[thanamestolga]

These mercenaries on the Turkish payroll are not "every Muslim". In fact, I'd have think deeply to remember a Turkish sponsored gun for hire group which isn't Islamist/ISIS/Al Qaeda/other scumbag.

Also, lets not forget who supported, armed and trained many of these characters in the Syrian civil war. It's just common knowledge and there is no denying it.

Regarding the story posted, John Kerry is a lying sack of sh!t and is an embarrassment to everyone.

One difference between these mercenaries and Blackwater, (which no longer exists) and Wagner is, those mercenaries are just in it for the money. When their done with their contract they fade back into society. The Turkish contracted mercenaries want the money as well, but afterwards, still want something more and down the road, other people will have to confront them.

Are you qualified to think about it?

And thus adding religious numb-nuts into the equation.

Well done!

Your opinion is even more useless than the previously mentioned.

Not just mercinaries, but members of various islamists terrorists groups.

Are you implying Sunni extremists would go fight for a Shia country?

I'd say, they make up the overwhelming bulk of the Turkish mercenaries.

Luckily what you say means absolutely nothing. Zip. Nada. I've been to Syria, have you?

The least you could people do is provide material for me to counter!

 

[Chazman]

Are you qualified to think about it?

I am.

I'm also willing to listen. Where do these Syrian mercenaries come from?

 

[thanamestolga]

I am.

I'm also willing to listen. Where do these Syrian mercenaries come from?

You lost your qualification when you wrote this.

Also, lets not forget who supported, armed and trained many of these characters in the Syrian civil war. It's just common knowledge and there is no denying it.

Turkey, U.S. sign deal to train, equip Syrian opposition, official says

The United States and Turkey signed an agreement on Thursday to train and equip moderate Syrian opposition fighters, and Ankara will provide an equal number of trainers to work alongside their American military counterparts, a U.S. official said.

www.reuters.com

Analysis: Dropped by CIA, Syrian Rebels Could Join Jihadists

The Trump administration’s decision to end a covert CIA program that provided arms and training to Syrian rebels may prompt the country’s battered opposition to side with jihadists in pursuit of a common goal: the overthrow of the Syrian government.

deeply.thenewhumanitarian.org

AP: U.S. training Syria rebels in Jordan

Officials tell AP that U.S. intel agents have been training secular rebels for months; Pentagon spokesman denies U.S. is training Syrian opposition

www.cbsnews.com

U.S. has secretly provided arms training to Syria rebels since 2012

CIA agents and special operations troops have trained the rebels in anti-tank and antiaircraft weaponry in Jordan and Turkey.

www.latimes.com

 

[Dercius]

And thus adding religious numb-nuts into the equation.

Well done!

Thats why we are starting to see vids with heads chopped.
Moderate headchoppas are going to chop heads, no matter if they hold Syrian, Turk, French, German or Swedish Passport.
And then out of nowhere you have Orthodox , Christians and Cossacks joining the fray.

Already minor reports about foreign volunteers joining Armenian side.
"Fighters from Lebanon, Syria and Latin America have volunteered to fight for Armenia against Azerbaijan in the ongoing conflict in the occupied Nagorno-Karabakh region, Radio France International (RFI) reported Saturday"

War tends to attract certain sort of people in certain states of mind.
Like Moths to a flame, certain sorts of people get attracted from around the world... when they burn into ashes and their memories are not preserved mourned or beloved by anyone on this world, all that is left of them is the raccount of their crimes, cruelty, madness, and hienous acts.
Some people just want to see the world burn, and as we all know, this people become a mere tool that has been used and played thousands of times along the historical eras.

 

[Chazman]

You lost your qualification when you wrote this.

Turkey, U.S. sign deal to train, equip Syrian opposition, official says

The United States and Turkey signed an agreement on Thursday to train and equip moderate Syrian opposition fighters, and Ankara will provide an equal number of trainers to work alongside their American military counterparts, a U.S. official said.

www.reuters.com

Analysis: Dropped by CIA, Syrian Rebels Could Join Jihadists

The Trump administration’s decision to end a covert CIA program that provided arms and training to Syrian rebels may prompt the country’s battered opposition to side with jihadists in pursuit of a common goal: the overthrow of the Syrian government.

deeply.thenewhumanitarian.org

AP: U.S. training Syria rebels in Jordan

Officials tell AP that U.S. intel agents have been training secular rebels for months; Pentagon spokesman denies U.S. is training Syrian opposition

www.cbsnews.com

U.S. has secretly provided arms training to Syria rebels since 2012

CIA agents and special operations troops have trained the rebels in anti-tank and antiaircraft weaponry in Jordan and Turkey.

www.latimes.com

So, are you saying that Turkey never trained or armed any of these groups?

 

[thanamestolga]

So, are you saying that Turkey never trained or armed any of these groups?

If I wanted to say that, I would have.

The first article literally says "Turkey, U.S. sign deal to train, equip Syrian opposition, official says".

So much for that qualification. ?

 

[Chazman]

If I wanted to say that, I would have.

The first article literally says "Turkey, U.S. sign deal to train, equip Syrian opposition, official says".

So much for that qualification. ?

The question was if Turkey pays, arms, equips and trains Syrian Islamists in the mercenary armies it is currently deploying throughout the region. The answer of course, is yes. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this thread knows it. You don't need some kind of super duper "qualification" to know that. It's common knowledge even to the casual observer. I'm not really sure where you're going with this or what point you are trying to make, but I can tell you, whatever it is, it's not a very effective argument.

 

[thanamestolga]

The question was if Turkey pays, arms, equips and trains Syrian Islamists in the mercenary armies it is currently deploying throughout the region. The answer of course, is yes. You know it. I know it. Everyone reading this thread knows it. You don't need some kind of super duper "qualification" to know that. It's common knowledge even to the casual observer. I'm not really sure where you're going with this or what point you are trying to make, but I can tell you, whatever it is, it's not a very effective argument.

Saying somebody knows something is not exactly an effective argument, I genuinely do not care what you know or somebody else. That is the whole point of my sarcasm. Its links, sources that cannot be refuted or nada.

I shared with you several links whose idea it was to pay, arm and equip the Syrians. Now some of them yes, they left and joined other groups (which is included in one of the links I already shared). But this does not automatically equate to Turkey trained and actively uses jihadists everywhere throughout the world or something.

 

[Chazman]

Saying somebody knows something is not exactly an effective argument, I genuinely do not care what you know or somebody else. That is the whole point of my sarcasm. Its links, sources that cannot be refuted or nada.

I shared with you several links whose idea it was to pay, arm and equip the Syrians. Now some of them yes, they left and joined other groups (which is included in one of the links I already shared). But this does not automatically equate to Turkey trained and actively uses jihadists everywhere throughout the world or something.

Well, again. I'm asking you a direct question. Which ones are not jihadis?

 

[Dercius]

Lots of reports about heavy clashes in the south, in the Khudaferin reservoir area.
Azerbaijan forces are coming closer to the Armenian border proper.

Azerbaijan axis of advance is keeping one shoulder on the Iranian Border along the Aras River, while advancing across the lowlands on a narrow front.
Azerbaijan command better widens it quickly occupying surrounding mountain ridges. Hard job, I know, but it will be asking for trouble when winter comes if its not done.

As far as I can see the occupied land is barren wasteland, with lots of destroyed abbandoned villages, and a S**t ton of defensive works in the surrounding heights. Seems that this was a known advance axis by the insane amount of earthworks that can be seen on satellite image. That will give some plausibility about the heavy fighting reports.

Came across some new vids showing Azerbaijani servicemen allegedly killed today in the area (RIP). As usual take the info and claims by all sides with the usual dose of salt.

 

[Dercius]

Well, again. I'm asking you a direct question. Which ones are not jihadis?

Well, depending on who makes the call they can be, Freedom Fighters TM, Austere Religious Scholars, Opposition forces, Whateveristan Free Army, Moderates, and turn into Bloodthirsty Terrorists, the very next minute when the narrative suits the speaker and the winds of change just happened to blow.

Lets just agree that there are pawns who have been played and discarded by every warrying side for centuries. Thats the way Zealots work, they are predictable, can be easily played, and relatively safe to use and get rid off, if you have established the adecuate systems and forces when that time comes.... but if this basic precautions arent followed........... ohhh boy any ruler who wasnt careful and didnt do his job properly when dealing with this forces really went on a rough ride (for some literally the ride of their lives). They also come cheaper than mercs, are far more expendable, and certainly less dangerous than disgruntled or unpaid mercs, and waaaaay safer than "allied" forces allowed into your territory to fight on your behalf, but with their own agenda.

If you ask me they are Jihadis now, but they were the very same Jihadis when we trained then back then to topple Assad/Gaddaffi/Insert Name. Jeeeez..... I still remember the stories about their western instructors pissed off about the task of training jihadis. I still remember the story of a certain trainer not giving 2 fvcks and training them pisspoorly so they got offed in a month, so he wouldnt have to face them 2000km away in a different war 5 years down the road.