Mil News US Stops F-35 Parts Deliveries To Turkey

[Chazman]

Ridiculous that Erdogan believed that Trump would allow him to have F-35s while operating the S400. Erdo has overplayed his hand again.

 

[Chazman]

The fat lady just sang. It's over for Turkey and the F-35, gents. Enjoy the S400s Erdo.

Turkey Formally Dropped From F-35 Program - USNI News

THE PENTAGON – Turkey is being excised from the F-35 Lighting II Joint Strike Fighter program, and the U.S. will pay an estimated $500 to 600 million to retool the program in the aftermath, the Defense Department’s acquisition chief told reporters on Wednesday. Ellen Lord, undersecretary of...

news.usni.org

 

[Marat]

So USA have to spend additional money for continuing this, even now to expensive program, they have lost one of their partners and buyer, and they will have to pay compensation to Turkey.

And Turkey is pushed even harder in new partnership with Russia and China as EU and USA reject them.

And somehow this is good for USA and EU?

Great job.

On other hand Russia sell 2.5B $ ADS and surely will get new partnership with Turkey.

I am not sure what will Turkey do next? Maybe some SHORAD or Cruise Missiles purchase from Russia? Or contribution in new transport or passenger plane development. Or why not Su 35 or even Su 57 ?
What is your guess?

 

[BCNTM]

So USA have to spend additional money for continuing this, even now to expensive program, they have lost one of their partners and buyer, and they will have to pay compensation to Turkey.

And Turkey is pushed even harder in new partnership with Russia and China as EU and USA reject them.

And somehow this is good for USA and EU?

Great job.

On other hand Russia sell 2.5B $ ADS and surely will get new partnership with Turkey.

I am not sure what will Turkey do next? Maybe some SHORAD or Cruise Missiles purchase from Russia? Or contribution in new transport or passenger plane development. Or why not Su 35 or even Su 57 ?
What is your guess?

how they going to buy it with a currency that is worth nothing? - taking a further dip today

 

[Marat]

They will spare lot of money on F35 .

How could they buy F 35? Or how DID they bought S-400?

Turkey is not poor country you know that? Their military budget is about 18Billions of USA.
And they have a huge income from Russian turists (not only Russian but in this case they are most relevant).

This feud with USA/NATO/EU will increase their general cooperation with Russia so they could make barter arrangement. Indonesia for example will pay its Su35 with palm oil export to Russia.

At last option they could take credit from Russia ( same as they did for S-400).

 

[Junglejim]

Considering the new issues of the F-35 popping out:
- Stalls at 20 degrees angle of attack
- Paint peeling past mach 1.5
- 15% operational readiness

I could imagine more countries could be buying S400s just to get out of their obligations.

 

[Chazman]

Considering the new issues of the F-35 popping out:
- Stalls at 20 degrees angle of attack
- Paint peeling past mach 1.5
- 15% operational readiness

I could imagine more countries could be buying S400s just to get out of their obligations.

Many issues and poor program management with the F-35 program. But the fact of the matter is that at this point in time, the F-35 gives capabilities unheard of previously.

 

[Chazman]

So USA have to spend additional money for continuing this, even now to expensive program, they have lost one of their partners and buyer, and they will have to pay compensation to Turkey.

And Turkey is pushed even harder in new partnership with Russia and China as EU and USA reject them.

And somehow this is good for USA and EU?

Great job.

On other hand Russia sell 2.5B $ ADS and surely will get new partnership with Turkey.

I am not sure what will Turkey do next? Maybe some SHORAD or Cruise Missiles purchase from Russia? Or contribution in new transport or passenger plane development. Or why not Su 35 or even Su 57 ?
What is your guess?

Turkey can do whatever it wishes.

 

[Junglejim]

Many issues and poor program management with the F-35 program. But the fact of the matter is that at this point in time, the F-35 gives capabilities unheard of previously.

Low reliability rate, cant dogfight properly, paint peeling in high speed... you do know WW1 aircraft had those capabilities right?

 

[Chazman]

Low reliability rate, cant dogfight properly, paint peeling in high speed... you do know WW1 aircraft had those capabilities right?

You'd better send a memo to everyone buying F-35s that they are no better than Sopwith Camels!!!

 

[Junglejim]

Hahaha, I wouldnt insult a Sopwith Camel like that

 

[digrar]

Can't dogfight, but had 20:1 kill ratio at Red Flag.