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Warfare Northwestern Aleppo offensive (2024)
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It is also very likely these rebels are heavily back by foreign powers.
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This is not ISIS symbol its called seal of muhammed
Seal of Muhammad - Wikipedia
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So with this logica this soldier below is also fundamentalist
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ISIS and HTS are two separate extremist groups.
They have clashed in Syria due to ideological differences and competition for power, with HTS rejecting ISIS's authority and global caliphate ambitions.
- ISIS: A global jihadist group aiming to establish a caliphate.
- HTS: A local Syrian faction with ties to al-Qaeda, later distancing itself to focus on Syria.
In 2017, Hay’at Tahrir al-Sham (HTS) officially announced its break from al-Qaeda. This separation was part of HTS’s effort to establish itself as a more independent, Syria-focused movement and potentially gain legitimacy in the eyes of the international community.
I’m not defending them here, but I just wanted to point out the differences.
Roses are red,
Viiolets are blue.
Facts are just facts,
And nothing to do with you
I get the explanation, however I think it is a bit disingenuous.
Sure, the iconography has origins that predate the creation of ISIS, but it got co-opted by groups like ISIS in the 2010ies.
It "used to" be used differently, but not anymore.
One could mention the swastika as a symbol that got co-opted for entirely different meanings and purposes. And nowadays people will not attribute to that tetragrammadion the meanings it used to have before the Nazis made it theirs.
Though recent geopolitical events seem to have rehabilitated a vast amount of the 40ies symbology. So who knows, maybe wearing a hooked-cross will become fashionable again.
Furthermore, you brought up the Christian cross, but contrary to ISIS/ISIL/HTS/AQ/etc... there aren't similar global terroristic organizations waving that symbol.
And though military operatives can be seen wearing religious iconography, the purpose and intent behind it is not the same. They wear it to mark themselves as Christians, Catholics, Orthodox, believers in their faith but it stops there.
They do not claim to be there on a mission from God, or for any religiously motivated reasons. Instead they wear it as a talisman of sort.
ISIS/ISIL/AQ/HTS/etc... however are profoundly motivated by their religious beliefs and their actions are both guided and justified by their beliefs.
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I absolutely agree. Using something resembling an ISIS insignia in such an operation would only serve as excellent propaganda material for the Russians and Iranians. The Syrian army and opposition forces are in a dire state, consisting of untrained individuals firing aimlessly into the air. No one in the region truly knows how to fight a war. As I mentioned, when Iranian Hezbollah and Shias entered the scene, Sunni extremists also got involved. By "Christian" or "cross," I mean symbols like those seen in the Croat-Serb-Bosniak war. Ultimately, this is a sectarian war; no one is willing to die just because they dislike Assad.
The militants fighting in the region include:
Sunni jihadists, funded by those opposing Iran's dominance in the Middle East (e.g., Saudi Arabia and the UAE).
Iranian Hezbollah and loyalist Tiger Forces, trained and supported by Iran.
PKK-affiliated Syrian Kurds (YPG), considered the "best cannon fodder" by the U.S. and Israel to prevent the Iran-Iraq-Syria-Lebanon chain.
Turkmen fighters & MB fanatics trained by Turkey (TFSA).
The U.S. provided training in Syria to eliminate ISIS but found the Free Syrian Army to be no better than the Afghan army. As a result, militants from the PKK contingent were reorganized under the name SDF (Syrian Democra
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Both the US and the EU.
France, Germany, the UK, etc... flooded the opposition with cash and weapons without bothering to check who the opposition actually was.
The goal was to oust Assad but our leaders and politicians didn't really think the entire thing through, and thus we ended up providing money, gear and training to "very bad people".
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They seemed to be really well equipped - uniforms, vests, NVGs, the whole shebang. A question to the local expert - who is training and sponsoring them now? Turkey, obviously, who else?
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^^^ OK, that answers...
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A Polish analyst says the rebels have been using FPV drones very effectively and al-Asshat’s soldiers are unprepared for that. Other cities may fall soon as well.
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I hope Russians will gone in middle east
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Current situation
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Insh'allah.
Anything that diverts RuZZian resources is a bonus. I know some people on this forum would not agree with me.
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I guess only Polkas and Magyars understands Turkish worries about Russians, Iranians and YPG in Syria
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They can't lose Turkish neutral stand during peace talks. Also Putin won't risk full support of Muslim Turkic uprising for Crimea. Turkey could send Syrian Turkmens, Sunni pro MB militia and HTS which half of it made up Uzbek and Uyghur Turks (Extremely anti russians). They are dying to avenge the bombardment of Aleppo back in 2010s. They did great things in Libya and allegedly in Karabakh. If Russians dare to bomb Turkish outposts and killing few Turkish Soldiers now they would see rapidly formed Crimean Turkic/islamic army in Kherson. They will face real jihad like in Afghanistan. So much to lose for Assad's Aleppo before peace talks getting started.
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Syrians in turkey very happy after Shia Iranian militia and russians are retreating from Aleppo. They quickly pack up to move their homes
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As long as they free Aleppo from Iranian Hezbollah and millions of refugees can return to their homes it's profitable for everyone. I don't care that they are Isis or Nazis nor Japanese. Alone in Germany there is half million Syrians from this region they only accuse not to return regime and their shia militia.. No more refuge storm via Syria to Europe and Turkey. No more Russian nor Iranian bases near Mediterranean= win win.
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