Politics Google Oppresses the opinions of others

[colin traveller]

What they have done is beyond disgraceful .....all because some woke NBC

employee didn't like what people where posting in the comments section

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[surfpunk]

they also censor search results. if you search for something they dont like they will return opposite search results.

 

[Chazman]

Google, twitter, all of them. Heinrich Himmler would be proud.

 

[Telmar]

Himmler was' nt running a private company. Google and Twitter have their freedom too. That being said, these are giants now and they have an enormous impact on the distribution of information. They hurt the newspapers badly too, as they also enabled all sorts of websites to compete without any source whatsoever neuwspapers and networks that have high costs of reporting but..

You have laws in the US against dominant positions and trusts. Break those companies down, I think it should have been done years ago when they started stealing content from newspapers.

 

[Ivan le Fou]

Oppressing may be a bit strong.

They are rather making their editorializing behavior official.

 

[bfc1001]

Google are no worse than media platforms that have preceded it . It's like CT s initial post .....brought to you by fox news .

 

[muck]

The problem is tech giants operate in a bit of a grey zone not properly outlined by legislation yet. In most jurisdictions, they're treated as both communication and information providers.

Obviously, a communication provider like the postal service is not responsible for the delivered content and may not discriminate against contents.

An information provider (e.g. a publisher), on the other hand, is legally responsible for the content made available. As a consequence, the nature of the published content is entirely up to him.

What we need is an international treaty akin to the agreements that created the International Telecommunication Union. If the legal map continues to look like a rag rug, big data will never behave like we want them to.

 

[surfpunk]

Google are no worse than media platforms that have preceded it . It's like CT s initial post .....brought to you by fox news .

google isnt the media. I should have been clear, I meant the search engine. it is a tool used to access something. it should be completely transparent.

 

[bfc1001]

google isnt the media. I should have been clear, I meant the search engine. it is a tool used to access something. it should be completely transparent.

But it's owned by someone so that negates any opportunity for transparency . Unless of course you trust the board of directors .

 

[Chazman]

Himmler was' nt running a private company. Google and Twitter have their freedom too. That being said, these are giants now and they have an enormous impact on the distribution of information. They hurt the newspapers badly too, as they also enabled all sorts of websites to compete without any source whatsoever neuwspapers and networks that have high costs of reporting but..

You have laws in the US against dominant positions and trusts. Break those companies down, I think it should have been done years ago when they started stealing content from newspapers.

He'd still be proud of them. Or maybe I should say, Google and Twitter must take their inspiration from Himmler.

Maybe it's time they should be broken up. Perhaps the one and only thing that I agree with Elizabeth Warren on.

 

[Chazman]

Google are no worse than media platforms that have preceded it . It's like CT s initial post .....brought to you by fox news .

The issue is that these companies have a near complete monopoly on control of information. You don't like Fox? You literally have hundreds of other choices. You don't like Google or Twitter....well..........?

 

[muck]

It should be completely transparent.

I'd agree, but I can also see a powerful counter-argument. If you ask me for the best mechanic to fix your ride I'm under no obligation to recommend the best mechanic available. Even if my advisory role is a business model and I'm obliged to give you an answer, all I have to tell you is who I think is the best mechanic.

Technically speaking, Google's providing a similar service: namely what they think is the correct answer to your question. I can't see a prima facie reason to assume they can't exclude potential answers. As @Chazman's pointed out, the problem isn't so much what they're doing but that they're doing it from a monopolist's position.

Even though I think that describtion fits Google better than Twitter or Facebook, as I understand a monopoly's power to come from the lack of viable alternatives. You don't have to use the likes of Twitter though, there's just a social pressure to do so. Meanwhile Facebook's beginning decline shows their position of power is not hewn in stone.

A search engine, on the other hand, is an indispensable tool and Google provides pretty much the only one functioning.

He'd still be proud of them. Or maybe I should say, Google and Twitter must take their inspiration from Himmler.

Just to clarify, you're thinking of Goebbels, aren't you. Himmler had nought to do with propaganda.

The issue is that these companies have a near complete monopoly on control of information. You don't like Fox? You literally have hundreds of other choices. You don't like Google or Twitter....well..........?

Exactly.

 

[Jake84]

Yeah. Didn’t want to be « that guy » but Herr Doktor Goebbels is the one you were prolly thinking of. Himmler was mainly in charge of butchering the untermenschen in Europe...

 

[Chazman]

In other news.

REPORT: DOJ to Propose Rolling Back Big Tech's Legal Immunity

The Department of Justice is preparing proposals to roll back the legal immunities enjoyed by Big Tech companies under Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act (CDA), in measures that will be announced as early as Wednesday, sources told the Wall Street Journal.

www.breitbart.com

 

[Chazman]

Yeah. Didn’t want to be « that guy » but Herr Doktor Goebbels is the one you were prolly thinking of. Himmler was mainly in charge of butchering the untermenschen in Europe...

Yes indeedy.

 

[TheKiwi]

This sounds very much like a non-event. People complained about the comments in some videos. Youtube contacted the channel owners who locked the comments. Job sorted. Happens 1000 times a day.

 

[Sideline]

Complaints, complaints, complaints...

SOME people will complain about anything and everything.

SOME people will get offended about anything and everything.

MY censorship should be based on breaking a known law, NOT some complaint of some overly sensitive individual/individuals.

Why should anyone be censored by the whims/beliefs of others? It should not be so.

Just my .02

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[Fish&Chips]

Reality check: Google is not and has never been an impartial provider of information. It's a privately-owned company with no obligations to its customers whatsoever. I.e. they don't have to keep nor remove anything that's not outright illegal. So if they remove certain posts or suppress search results, it's their way of doing business. Don't like it? Use a different search engine while others are still out there.

Complaints, complaints, complaints...

SOME people will complain about anything and everything.

Didn't this thread start with a complaint?

 

[Sideline]

OH the irony!

I believe that it matters when the 'complaints' are acted on in a matter that censors someone.

Not exactly equal, but sure.

AND Reality check, that is precisely the topic of discussion, Googles 'bias's' and possible changes to laws....... sort of a problem for some, others not so much.

 

[TheKiwi]

And such "bias" change to the law would result in google/youtube shuttering anything that anyone might remotely offensive to anyone. You'd have a couple of channels left covering gardening and little kittens and nothing else.