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Netherlands says it has exhausted its capacity to provide military aid to Ukraine
Dutch Defence Minister Dilan Yeşilgöz-Zegerius has said that the Netherlands is no longer able to provide additional direct military assistance to Ukraine.
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Calm down they just said that the trsnsfer of Dutch armed forces hardware has reached an end which is obvious. They eill continue to dupport Ukrsine in all other areas more than 11 bill. € are earmarked as future support.
We ara in a new phase - industrial cooperation is key now alongside shopping in western armouries.
We ara in a new phase - industrial cooperation is key now alongside shopping in western armouries.
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A non negligible amount of damage to residential area from last night strike on these warehouse complexs (either manufacturing or storing weapons) was, unfortunately, caused by secondary explosions, various ordinances cooking off and flying away into residential areas.
Reportedly the targets were:
-Kiev-71 Industrial Enterprise (Abris PT Association): long/medium-range UAVs
-Kiev-1 Electronic Industry Assembly Plant (Kiev Burevestnik State Enterprise): long/medium range UAVs and radar equipment
-Kiev-79 Industrial Enterprise (UKR ARMO TECH LLC): armor protection components and warheads for various types of missiles/UAVs
-Kiev Shipyard (Kuznya na Rybalskom PJSC): makes the Project 58155 Gyurza-M
-Kyiv-1 Instrument-Making Plant (Kvant Plant): fire control systems, optoelectronic countermeasure systems, etc...
-Zhulyany Missile Assembly and Components Plant (Zhulyany Machine-Building Plant Vizar LLC): anti-aircraft missile systems, components for aircraft and air defense systems
-Vyshneve Fuel and Lubricant Warehouse (Nefteyeksperimentalnoye KP): stores diesel fuel for emergency use
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Like it matters whether or not a batch of 155mm shells passes through a Dutch warehouse or is delivered straight to Ukraine. The Dutch army hasn't had any significant stockpiles for decades, ordering stuff only as it was needed. Business as usual. The only stuff "in storage" in Feb. 2022 were the things that were up for sale, but nobody wanted to buy even at rock bottom prices.
Semantics for clickbait.
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Pretty much the situation for every country.
Mothballed equipment in reserve destined for (dire) emergencies (pretty much everything that was sitting on our shelves), equipment about to be replaced (AMX10), stuff left out to rust (M113, Leo1, VABs, etc...) and things we "could get rid of without endangering our military capabilities".
Problem with that last category is it seems we adopted the Merkel "we will manage" approach, cutting large hoping it would do the trick and pay off. Which it didn't. And despite the claims of "Russia running out and about to lose 'any day now' ", we are 4 years in, with little hope for Ukraine to retake what they lost.
Now we have Ukraine mostly asking for more AD, and Poland taking PAC3 from their own active stocks.
So, it didn't pay off, and Europe has had to restart an industry with a huge inertia (to which we have to add the inherent inertia of Europe). Stocks haven't been replaced, shelves are not filled (and are far from getting there).
On the plus side, it kicked some sense into some people to make them realize the military, procurement, strategy (well, that's another topic), etc... had to go through profound and significant transformation.
So, at least, there is that.
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Facility in Vyshneve where detonation occurred does not belong to AFU – General Staff
The facility in the city of Vyshneve, where a detonation occurred following a Russian strike on the night of July 6, is not under the authority or control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. — Ukrinform.
That's... quite the concern, there.
It didn't belong to the AFU? Meaning, it didn't belong to ANY of the Ukrainian armed forces? Not the Ground Forces, not the Air Force, not the Air Assault, not the Marines, not the special forces, not the Navy, the UAVs or the Territorials.
Who did it belong to, then? The SBU?
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Interesting. The Russians knew about it.Facility in Vyshneve where detonation occurred does not belong to AFU – General Staff
The facility in the city of Vyshneve, where a detonation occurred following a Russian strike on the night of July 6, is not under the authority or control of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. — Ukrinform.www.ukrinform.net
That's... quite the concern, there.
It didn't belong to the AFU? Meaning, it didn't belong to ANY of the Ukrainian armed forces? Not the Ground Forces, not the Air Force, not the Air Assault, not the Marines, not the special forces, not the Navy, the UAVs or the Territorials.
Who did it belong to, then? The SBU?
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He's right. President's camp is trying its best to F*** up relations between Poland and Ukraine by digging up the past when we should stand united in the present. It was Nawrocki himself that said "We will not dictate Ukraine the name of their streets" but suddenly he's outraged because some military unit was named after "Heroes of the UPA". I'm sure that nobody from Slovakia or Jewish community has complained about celebrating the "Cursed Soldiers" during PiS's rule, those guys were crystal clear, right? Add to that right wing idiots that are trying to challenge themselves who is more anti Ukrainian, including PiS that bitched about us giving Patriot interceptors to Ukraine completely forgetting that they were the ones that told Germany to deliver Patriots to Ukraine instead of stationing them in Poland couple of years ago. Just like they forgot that they delivered 15 billion zlotys worth of equipment to Ukraine while they were running the government and now they bitch that current government delivered 1.5 billion zlotys worth of equipment saying that they're giving away too much.
Good write-up on defence24:
defence24.pl
Granted, Budanov's mistake is that he's bringing this topic back up to stir some S**t again, pre-emptively I guess, right before Wolynia massacre anniversary. Funny how preceding sentences were taken out of that video:
It's also stupid that he's grouping everyone into "Polish side", when in reality it's the majority of the opposition.
Good write-up on defence24:
Polska pomogła Ukrainie przetrwać. Po tym sama pozwoliła nazwać to „złomem”
To nie był złom. To był czas, ogień, mobilność i szansa przetrwania dla Ukrainy w pierwszej fazie wojny. Problem polega na tym, że strona polska zbyt długo pozwalała opowiadać o własnej pomocy językiem magazynowego sprzątania, a nie strategicznego wkładu w bezpieczeństwo Ukrainy i Polski.
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One way or another, through IMINT, or on site intelligence, yes.
But either way, that probably wasn't too much of a hard thing to do considering the size of the explosion. A lot of ammunition might have been stored at that location, and that's something that leaves traces eventually.
Or somebody leaked.
Bulgaria Says It Has No More Weapons to Send Ukraine But Will Continue Equipment Repairs
Bulgaria has sent 13 military aid packages to Ukraine and will now focus on repairing Ukrainian equipment instead of sending more weapons.
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The Russian army launched a second Iskander missile strike on Kyiv on the night of July 8. The strike hit the Ukrainian company Samsung-Ukraine, which produced and stored components for FP-5 Flamingo cruise missiles. A drone assembly plant, a motor depot on the territory of Kyivmetrobud, and warehouses used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in Kyiv's Desnyansky district were also hit.
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Orc AD: "We shoot down stuff... not always enemy stuff, but by Putler's whiskers, we shoot stuff down!"
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